March Madness

March is here, and you already know what that means it’s time for NCAA March Madness Tournament talk. On this episode of Them Guys Podcast, we break down the bracket from top to bottom, giving our Final Four predictions, calling out our sleeper teams, and highlighting the matchups that have upset written all over them. But we’re not stopping there. We also dive into the top NBA Draft prospects and debate who’s really next up versus who might be overhyped. Plus, we discuss the growing concerns around a potential WNBA lockout and what that could mean for the league moving forward. We also get into the latest moves around the NFL, breaking down trades, winners, losers, and what teams are really thinking behind the scenes. To wrap it up, we have a real conversation about AAU basketball and whether it’s still an affordable path for young athletes or if the game has officially become pay-to-play. From college hoops to the pros and the future of youth basketball, we’re covering it all with real talk, strong opinions, and a few laughs along the way.

Transcript

SPEAKER_06 0:15

Welcome to Them Gas Podcast. The only podcast that comes from the real perspective with my homie AC and the one and only Greatness MJ. And yes, sir, you know it's that time, that time of year, Mars Madness, and we got the brackets right now. So let's kick it off, man. Who's going to the final four on the first on the first day, right? Who's going to the final four?

SPEAKER_01 0:41

That's the college nigga right there.

SPEAKER_03 0:43

It's a tough one. So when I'm looking at some of these divisions, the East, right? The East is tough, so I'm going to hold on for I'm going to hold that one for last. Okay. For most of these divisions, I'm picking either two teams for right now. Like if I'm going to the Midwest, Michigan is always a strong suit. And I fuck with Alabama. Okay. Alabama's a good, it's good. All depends on what happened with that guy. They got arrested today with the marijuana.

SPEAKER_01 1:14

Wait a minute. I ain't gonna say it for sure, but I saw one of my reports he got walked off campus.

SPEAKER_03 1:18

Oh, for real? He did? Well, we're gonna scratch them now. Because that's 16 points per game. That's hard to cover 16 points per game tournament time.

SPEAKER_06 1:26

Man. So that's why somebody called in a spread for that one.

SPEAKER_03 1:30

So Michigan for the Midwest, the South. I know this sounds crazy, but I like Florida, of course. But my sleeper, Nebraska. If Nebraska get hot, hey, you better watch that weekend. You better watch it.

SPEAKER_01 1:49

What the fuck was that movie?

SPEAKER_03 1:51

You haven't been watching Nebraska basketball. Oh, Houston? They know how to shoot that motherfucker. They know how to shoot it. They know I said, that's my sleeper.

SPEAKER_01 1:59

Okay, hold on. So, do you have Nebraska in the final four? Let's do Final Four first.

SPEAKER_03 2:04

I said my final four right now is Florida. My sleeper team. If there's any other team I think that could really move some movies.

SPEAKER_01 2:10

So we're gonna do our final four and a sleeper team. Okay, I'm with you.

SPEAKER_03 2:14

I'm with you. Nebraska.

SPEAKER_00 2:17

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 2:18

Going up to the West. Well, I have no I have no sleeper team from the Midwest because them motherfuckers got knocked out because the dude got arrested with his pals.

SPEAKER_06 2:27

Yeah. That's a crazy unwinking thing. Somebody must have known that shit the whole time and gave a little tip. 1-800 TI.

SPEAKER_02 2:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 2:36

1-800 TI tip number.

SPEAKER_03 2:39

Of course, Arizona, but also gotta go with.

SPEAKER_01 2:43

Can I ask you something? You watched the Arizona-Iowa State game?

SPEAKER_03 2:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:47

You think Arizona won by luck?

SPEAKER_03 2:49

I don't think anybody won by luck.

SPEAKER_01 2:50

Okay, but but you think if they would have lost, they still would have been a number one seed?

SPEAKER_03 2:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:55

Iowa's a two seed?

SPEAKER_03 2:56

Yeah. It's all about the wins. That would have just been their third loss on the season.

unknown 2:59

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 3:00

Michigan lost, still number one.

SPEAKER_01 3:01

I'm with you. I'm with you.

SPEAKER_03 3:02

Yeah. No. Florida lost. I'm with you. I'm with you.

SPEAKER_01 3:05

I'm with you.

SPEAKER_03 3:06

So, Wisconsin, I'm heavy on the Big Ten this year. They've just been playing great basketball. This ain't football. Okay. They've been playing great. Now the East. Man. East is tough. Yeah, East is a motherfucker. So. Duke is my team because they proved to me that they could win without two of their fucking starters.

SPEAKER_06 3:33

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_03 3:33

But they gonna need at least one of them. Point guard. Well, they point guard they good. Hey, he showed up. Boozer showed up two games in a row.

SPEAKER_06 3:43

Somebody told me you was doing Duke before, even before we uh they had them issues, to be honest, dude. Huh? Somebody told me that you or your Duke anyway.

SPEAKER_03 3:53

But they really should, but they really show me. You know, I don't show them. They showed you their diverse, I mean uh adversity. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 3:58

So who's your sleeper in the east?

SPEAKER_03 4:00

My sleeper in the east. It's Michigan State.

SPEAKER_01 4:06

Michigan State.

SPEAKER_06 4:08

Yeah. Man, they got, I don't know about that. That's a crazy sleeper.

SPEAKER_03 4:12

UConn has been up and down. If when they got a so, especially they coach, the last few games haven't been that good. Michigan State has been playing good ball even though they lost to UCLA. Louisville's been up and down all fucking season. All season.

SPEAKER_01 4:31

Iso a good is a great coach, though.

SPEAKER_03 4:33

Iso's a good Sweet 16 Final Four. I mean Elite Eight Final Four coach.

SPEAKER_01 4:38

He can coach it to the Sweet 16.

SPEAKER_06 4:40

You've been coaching the same system since uh shit.

SPEAKER_01 4:43

What's the start? Matee Clees and Draymond Green.

SPEAKER_03 4:47

Yeah. St. John's, I see St. John's as a as a Sweet 16 team. Could could potentially go to the Elite Eight. But with them in Kansas battling, that's a tough one.

SPEAKER_01 4:58

But Kansas, you gotta know how much Peterson gonna play, though.

SPEAKER_03 5:02

If Peterson's gonna play fucking a half and But we're also looking at this conference to conference. It's kind of like football. Who who had strength of schedule? Big 12 is hot. I mean schedule's out the window right now. Schedule's out the window.

SPEAKER_06 5:15

Like this is the tournament right now.

SPEAKER_03 5:17

That's like saying I'm gonna I'm gonna pick Hawaii to be Arkansas, Arkansas. It ain't gonna happen.

SPEAKER_06 5:25

But I mean like the big the big schools, you know, the traditional basketball elite schools, it's all out the window.

SPEAKER_03 5:32

I sit there and look at Kansas year wasn't that great, but to me, between the Big Ten and the Big 12, those are the two best conferences in basketball. Yeah. They stacked in the tournament. So what's your final four then? My final four is is the the top ones. It's all four number ones.

SPEAKER_01 5:50

You got all number ones going. That shit ain't happened since a few years ago. Yeah, that's what I was about to say.

SPEAKER_06 5:55

It happened. All right. For me, for the South, I have a final four and a sleeper. Yeah, so my my final first final four for the South is Illinois.

SPEAKER_01 6:07

This nigga. That's your finals?

SPEAKER_06 6:09

That's my final four. Matter of fact, you know what? Let me stress.

SPEAKER_01 6:12

Illinois might not get out the fucking first round.

SPEAKER_06 6:14

Houston, Houston is my final four. Illinois is my sleeper. So Illinois will be my sleep.

SPEAKER_01 6:19

Illinois cannot be a sleeper if they rank third, nigga.

SPEAKER_06 6:22

Hey man, it's my motherfucking decisions, boy. My choice. Okay. You know, Midwest, let me think. For the Midwest, man, I really don't even like the Midwest, really. All these motherfuckers can lose.

SPEAKER_01 6:36

Tennessee State is 15, nigga. Shout out to my people that went there, boy.

SPEAKER_06 6:41

Ain't the old boy from uh from Duke coaching the team right there? Yeah. So yeah, I have them as the sleeper because I don't really like nobody on here. Tennessee State is your sleeper? My sleeper.

SPEAKER_01 6:52

This nigga do drugs. Geez.

SPEAKER_06 6:53

My I got Michigan going out of there. I got Michigan winning it from the Midwest. Hey, for the West, I have Arkansas coming out as the you know the number one team. My sleeper, you know, Gonzaga every year, figure some way to get to get there. I don't know how, but you know, that'll be the sleeper team. If I be real, I want BYU, but I ain't gonna make it nowhere. So Gonzaga's a sleeper team for the East. I have my team that's gonna be in the final four is St. John's. My sleeper team is Kansas, which really is not a sleeper team, but you know.

SPEAKER_03 7:41

How you how they gotta play each other. Well, one of them gotta be the team. So one of them got how they gonna be your sleeper team.

SPEAKER_06 7:47

One of them gotta meet each other, so whoever knocks you up, they're gonna be the final four. They literally play each other in the next round. One of them gotta knock each other out. Whoever knocks each other out, they're gonna be the one to win the championship. Because Duke ain't making it pass. Them two teams. You just say that because you don't like Duke. Hey, man.

SPEAKER_01 8:01

This nigga Lambdon did a line before the show.

SPEAKER_06 8:04

Yeah. Hey man, I'm giving the picks that that's gonna win. Trust me, put it in your bracket right now. Put in your parlay right now.

SPEAKER_01 8:12

That's why I bought the belt out today.

SPEAKER_06 8:14

Because you're making that money?

SPEAKER_01 8:15

No, trust in greatness, baby. The billion-dollar man. All right. Now, the south, if you really want to put some best in it, out the south, it's tough. It's gonna be Houston. It's gonna be a rough one, though. But the sleeper is North Carolina. Even though they are ranked sixth, ever since Wilson went down, he's a fresh, a freshman pineile. If they can Nah, fuck that. North Carolina ain't going on. Rebook that back. Rebound. Am I insane that just looking down? Hey, because this nigga Wilson leads them in scoring, rebounding, assists. They might not be hurt. Yeah, he's done for the. They might not beat VCU. They might not, man. But you know I'm a homer. North Carolina's my team.

SPEAKER_03 9:06

Yeah, I didn't hear you that last North Carolina game.

SPEAKER_01 9:11

Group chat was kind of quiet that day.

SPEAKER_03 9:13

I call him like Mike kind of quiet. I'm gonna let him breathe.

SPEAKER_01 9:16

But Houston going in the final four, and Vanderbilt is my fucking sleeper, though. I like them guys, man. They really are who's gonna be.

SPEAKER_03 9:24

I like you picking sleepers. Not like somebody else.

SPEAKER_01 9:28

Okay, so now out that Midwest, I want to go Michigan. That's what my heart says. Been Five-Five, wearing black socks and fucking since forever, baggy shorts.

SPEAKER_06 9:39

Hey, Jalen Rose ain't rolling the ball out there, just to let you know, man. He actually banned from the campus again.

SPEAKER_01 9:45

But I'm telling you, Iowa State boss. I saw that game against Arizona. I saw their whole run. That's who's coming out? Yes. I seen that whole run, man. They got some motherfuckers 6'8, 6'8 to 6'10 that just shoot nothing but threes.

SPEAKER_03 10:01

And what I say to me, the two best conferences, Big Ten and Big 12, you can't go wrong.

SPEAKER_01 10:05

All they do is shoot threes. They come off picks. If somebody hot, they're gonna feed them the ball like they bam I buy you. All right.

SPEAKER_03 10:12

How many teens the Big 12 got in this tournament?

SPEAKER_06 10:14

They got a lot of teams, man, man. It's pretty deep.

SPEAKER_01 10:16

Oh, my sleeper is Virginia.

SPEAKER_06 10:18

I think Big 12 this shoot.

SPEAKER_01 10:20

I saw Virginia versus Duke. I was very scratched that.

SPEAKER_03 10:23

Nah. What's that? Don't let them fool you.

SPEAKER_01 10:26

That wasn't hold on. It wasn't a good game, though?

SPEAKER_03 10:28

Like I said, Duke was missing two stars. You saw when they played each other a few weeks back, you beat them by double digit. It wasn't a good ass game, though. Yeah, it was a good game. It was a good game. Lil Boozer was even gonna get a game. Isn't it kind of crazy how when two starters are out, the playing feels easy? Easy, isn't it?

SPEAKER_01 10:46

It's kind of even, I mean. Hey, but Lil Boozer was trying to get off, though. Yeah, there's two games in a row for him. Yeah, I was surprised, man. That's why I text y'all in the group. Is he a uh lottery pick? He's not lottery picking. Nah, he ain't no lottery pick.

SPEAKER_03 10:57

So this is the thing about Boozer. Even back in high school, when the game was on the line, point guard, but we call him Lil Booza, even though they swing it. He's 6'4. We call him Lil Booze.

SPEAKER_06 11:09

Lil Booza.

SPEAKER_03 11:10

He if you even look at their national championship last year. He led the way down the line. That's why he's that's why he is where he is. When the game's on the line.

SPEAKER_01 11:20

But he gotta stay till your junior, though.

SPEAKER_03 11:23

Nah.

SPEAKER_01 11:24

You gotta do a Bryce James. You gotta stay till your junior.

SPEAKER_06 11:26

The Booza kids are the first kids that look older than their dad. Like, yeah, you see. Well, you gotta remember, Carlos looked old as hell in college.

SPEAKER_01 11:34

That nigga painted his hair, nigga. When he was the boozy. Embrace that shit, nigga.

SPEAKER_06 11:39

Bald nigga, bald nigga.

SPEAKER_01 11:42

But I think Iowa State, after I saw that game against Arizona, man, they whole little run to the Big 12 championship was epic, though.

SPEAKER_03 11:49

Can't go wrong.

SPEAKER_06 11:51

I think, and it might be a little hot take. I think Big 12 had the like best conference this year, man. At least the most entertaining, man. I mean, Big Ten, Big 12. Yeah, there was the most entertaining.

SPEAKER_01 12:00

Now I'm gonna kill you with this. Out the West, wanna razorbacks. Nolan Richardson died this year. I believe in fucking signs and shit, though. R.I.P. Norman Richardson, though. Real nigga shit. Black ass nigga with a suit on. You can't really see. Never mind. I ain't gonna broke it.

SPEAKER_03 12:19

They gotta play that. Rest in peace. They gotta play that crypt. They gotta play that kryptonite the second round. That calipari kryptonite.

SPEAKER_01 12:25

I ain't worried about that.

SPEAKER_03 12:26

Wisconsin.

unknown 12:28

I know.

SPEAKER_01 12:29

I know. But I believe that uh what's the boy for uh Arizona?

SPEAKER_06 12:35

Bryson James? No.

SPEAKER_01 12:37

I mean for uh for Arkansas.

SPEAKER_03 12:39

A cough Darius.

SPEAKER_01 12:40

Yeah, that boy can ball, G. Yeah. He he's a lottery pick. Hands down, he's gonna be a lottery pick.

SPEAKER_06 12:46

Man, they don't talk about him. They talk about he the next John Wall. He's legendary and all this, bro.

SPEAKER_01 12:50

He can hoop though. He can hoop though. But my my sleeper pick, I'm going my heart. I'm going Mizzou. You already know. Shout out my kids that go there. You know what I'm saying? All right. So I'm going Mizzo, sleeper pick just cuz, but don't bet on they ass though. Yeah. I stopped that shit a long time ago, but I'm like, Missouri gang gonna be tough.

SPEAKER_03 13:09

That's probably gonna be one of the best first-round games. But the thing is, though, I think it's gonna be a good ass game.

SPEAKER_01 13:13

They got a home home court advantage, though, because the fans can drive to the game. That's why I think it's gonna be a sleeper, though, because you can drive to it, can you pay for it? Yeah, they got money down in the Missouri bones, so I ain't gonna lie to you. Especially they're paying out goddamn tuition. Shit. Got me drinking Tito's in the motherfuckers. But out that east, it's not gonna be Duke. I put it on a fucking board. Craig. You already know, solo. I guarantee greatness hot take. Duke is not going to pass the sweet 16. I put my money on that. Duke is not getting past the sweet 16.

SPEAKER_03 13:54

Yeah, we gotta make some bets after that.

SPEAKER_01 13:55

We can.

SPEAKER_03 13:56

A little sad back action.

SPEAKER_01 13:58

But out the east, I'm gonna say UConn. I believe in them boys. That coach don't play, man. His little short ass just be yelling and shit. And that's what motivates some teams, though. You know?

SPEAKER_06 14:11

Yeah, that hurley uh magic is special. I think, yeah, it's called the transportal. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:17

But my sleep, I'm gonna go with your boy St. John, man. St. John, Rick Patino got them boys hooping, nigga.

SPEAKER_06 14:24

Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_01 14:25

Hooping.

SPEAKER_06 14:26

Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_01 14:27

Alright? Them boys are hooping at St. John, though, cuz. My bad Craig was yelling. But hey, them boys hooping out there. Hands down, St. John might win it all. That's my sleeping pick to win it all, though. St. John's.

SPEAKER_03 14:41

St. John's, you'll see.

SPEAKER_01 14:43

Yeah, but I'ma, I'm a I'ma, we're gonna turn it around. My pick to win it all, though. Houston. Nobody beating him.

SPEAKER_06 14:49

Well, you got the most confusing shit. What the what's so what was your pick? You confusing as fuck. Yeah, what the fuck going on? So who's your final four?

SPEAKER_01 14:56

My final four is what'd I say? The east, I got Arkansas.

SPEAKER_03 15:01

Okay. The Midwest, you mean the West, you got Arkansas.

SPEAKER_01 15:05

No, yeah, the West, I got Arkansas. The East, I got Yukon. The Midwest, I got Iowa State. The South, I got Houston.

SPEAKER_06 15:15

Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_01 15:16

And I got Houston when they're all.

SPEAKER_06 15:18

Alright. So I guess.

SPEAKER_01 15:20

You better believe in greatness, nigga. Alright? N-word. Please, greatness. Please, greatness. We believe in greatness. Hey, you got to cut chop that up, though.

SPEAKER_06 15:29

So, so it's gonna be some upsets, you know. Maybe not in the first round, but we're gonna try to guess. What do you think is gonna be like the big upset game as far as in this tournament?

SPEAKER_01 15:42

What's considered upset though?

SPEAKER_06 15:44

I don't know, man. So, like, what if you consider upset?

SPEAKER_01 15:47

Hold on. Every year a 12 is beating the five.

SPEAKER_03 15:50

South Florida being Louisville, Northern Iowa's tough. You know who they're playing?

SPEAKER_01 15:55

Who knows Iowa play?

SPEAKER_03 15:56

St. John's. You know what St. John's is? A five.

SPEAKER_01 16:01

I got high point beating Wisconsin because a 12's gonna beat a five. It happens every year.

SPEAKER_03 16:06

Akron could beat Texas Tech. Texas Tech goes to the game.

SPEAKER_01 16:08

Akron can't, that's true.

SPEAKER_03 16:09

Texas Tech, well, I was talking to them the other day. Texas Tech, I had them going far. But Jay, I didn't know what was it, JT Topping towards ACL.

SPEAKER_01 16:19

But Akron got all seniors, though. They got grown men. They got niggas like 27, 28 playing still.

SPEAKER_03 16:26

Akron and I think South Florida can pull it off. I'm still, you know. South Florida's playing Louisville. They're not gonna be Louisville.

SPEAKER_06 16:33

I still got like my upset games, you know, the you know, Tennessee State was go. Because they got a you know a Dukey there. You know, you should be supporting your you know, former Dookie.

SPEAKER_03 16:42

When they leave Duke, it ain't my problem. Yeah, you just I'm a fan of Duke. Who? I don't care about them after they leave, Duke. Yeah, yeah. You sound like Coach K.

SPEAKER_01 16:52

I love that HBCUs are being included in these games, G.

SPEAKER_04 16:57

They always are when they when they win.

SPEAKER_01 17:00

But at the same time, you cannot put a HBCU who won this fucking SWAT conference, whatever it is, I forgot, even though I went to one, against a big D1 school. It's gonna be a complete blow-up.

SPEAKER_03 17:13

That doesn't make any sense, you didn't make any sense.

SPEAKER_06 17:15

They're all D1. Yeah. Yeah. You mean it's like a top blue blood team or so. A HBCU.

SPEAKER_01 17:23

A D1, HBU, they're a D1 school. I don't believe Howard, Tennessee State, Howard. Howard's in there. They are. They don't have a fucking chance, though, boy. Well, they can win the first game. They playing UNBC. I got Howard winning the first game.

unknown 17:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 17:38

But then they go against Michigan. The first four. Mm-hmm. You think Howard's gonna be Michigan? Hell no, they're gonna get their ass smacked. Exactly. You think Tennessee's gonna be gonna be gonna be able to do it?

SPEAKER_04 17:44

Do they go against Michigan or do they go against Florida?

SPEAKER_03 17:47

Who is it? They might be going against Florida. Because Lehigh Prairie View might go against Michigan. I just know they both, there's all the 16's.

SPEAKER_01 17:59

How is not gonna even come close? I'm picking up whatever the fuck the spread is, book it. That over.

SPEAKER_06 18:08

I mean, and also, um, yeah, I'm with y'all with that North Carolina and that VCU. I think VCU could party. You know, North Carolina's always shaky.

SPEAKER_01 18:16

They're not always shaky, nigga.

SPEAKER_03 18:18

Right now, they're always shaky. Be cool. For the last three years. As of Sunday, UNC is only minus two and a half.

SPEAKER_01 18:25

Damn.

SPEAKER_03 18:26

They're only minus two and a half. Yeah, they can lose the first round.

SPEAKER_01 18:28

Damn, is Wilson the first pick in the draft?

SPEAKER_06 18:32

Well, let's get to that. Let's get to that. So now that we, you know, we we was done talking about the amateurs, you know what I'm saying? Let's talk about the pros. Uh, you know, let's get our top five, you know, draft picks, you know. Who we think are gonna be the top five draft picks in the draft, who we think that might dip from that top five. Like uh, who wanna kick that off?

SPEAKER_01 18:54

You think anybody's gonna stay though? Or don't? Go ahead.

SPEAKER_06 18:57

I think Arena Sun might stay. Oh, he's staying. I think he might he should stay, but you know, you know, you know how family is, you know.

SPEAKER_01 19:05

He don't need the money.

SPEAKER_06 19:06

Yeah, I mean, we think. I don't know how much that podcast really grossing for real, but the way they're talking.

SPEAKER_01 19:14

My top five is I think Peterson's gonna get drafted in the top five. Now who's your one through five? Who's your? My first one is Wilson. Second is AJ. Third is what's his name, Arkansas?

SPEAKER_03 19:31

Darius Acoff.

SPEAKER_01 19:33

Darius Acoff. My fourth is the boy from Houston, uh Kingston. Philomens. Yeah. And my fifth is I said AJ. My fifth is Damn. What's the boy from Arizona at the game winner?

SPEAKER_03 19:56

The point guy.

SPEAKER_01 19:57

Yeah. I forgot his name, but I know he's gonna be a lottery pick, but I like his game. He might not even be a lottery pick. You don't think Butler's gonna what is Butler right? It started with a B.

SPEAKER_03 20:07

Whatever the fuck is that? Talking about Boozer?

SPEAKER_01 20:10

First four. Oh no, no, Boozer and Boozer, my bad.

SPEAKER_03 20:12

I'm gonna say, you think he's gonna be the top 14 pick?

SPEAKER_01 20:33

But no, my surprise is the boy from Arizona is gonna be a lottery pick, though. He's gonna be gonna get picked with the what's the boy.

SPEAKER_03 20:39

He's number four or number five.

SPEAKER_01 20:40

No, no, he's number five. So who I got? I got first is Wilson.

SPEAKER_03 20:46

Because you either gonna have to kick booze out then because Booza will be a good one. No, no, okay.

SPEAKER_01 20:49

First is Wilson, second is AJ, third is a Cuff, fourth is a Kingston, fifth, damn, I gotta put Peterson in there. I had this shit. You done fucked me up. Alright, one is Houston. Let me look at it. Two is AJ. Three is a Peterson. Four is a Cuff. Five is Kingston. Fuck them other two niggas up.

SPEAKER_03 21:20

You didn't say Houston was your first one, nigga. You started making sense. No, I didn't.

SPEAKER_01 21:23

I said Wilson is my first one. Houston.

SPEAKER_03 21:25

What are you talking about?

SPEAKER_01 21:27

No, Wilson's my first one.

SPEAKER_06 21:29

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01 21:30

Wilson should be the first pick in the draft.

SPEAKER_06 21:33

I'm with you on that. My first pick would be Wilson. My second pick would be AJ. My third pick would be Darius. Fourth pick will probably be Peterson. And my fifth pick will probably be Boozer. That's like the safe pick. But I think, I think, to be honest, I think Peterson is gonna slip in the draft once they start doing the like the you know, the medical work on him and find out what's really going on with him. He might slip.

SPEAKER_01 22:07

Because this nigga hit a jump shot, G, uh, three, and be like, take me out, coach. Hey.

SPEAKER_06 22:12

It's like that Adam, what was that, Adam Morrison when he had diabetes? When he had to, like, he might be a guy baby.

SPEAKER_03 22:18

Carroll had the same problem at a point in time with the cramps, but they figured that out a dude. It's just like Kansas, like, it is what it is.

SPEAKER_06 22:25

I mean, it's a blue blood program, too. I think they got the best doctors too there, so I don't know why this could be a bigger issue than we really think.

SPEAKER_03 22:33

He just said his whole he's talking, he's like, I just get my whole body cramps up, but pretty sure he ain't the first one.

SPEAKER_01 22:39

LeBron's got that shit too. My bad.

SPEAKER_03 22:41

So I go. He got cramps from the Mexican guys. So yeah, Caleb Wilson, my number one. Darius Acoff is my number two. My number three is gonna be Ament from Tennessee. AJ number four. No, I'm sorry. Peterson number four, AJ number five.

SPEAKER_01 23:07

You crazy than a motherfucker, G. AJ ain't dropping out the top three, boy.

SPEAKER_03 23:14

You never know. Who's picking?

SPEAKER_01 23:19

Hey, dude, I don't give no fuck who picking. AJ ain't dropping out the top three.

SPEAKER_03 23:23

Say if uh, what is it? If Brooke, if you Utah wants him. You got Bailey. You got Bailey. You just draft the Bailey. You don't need it. He's gonna be trading on draft day.

SPEAKER_01 23:37

So what are they taking for then?

SPEAKER_03 23:40

Every team is taking. You know, these are just our top fives. If you know, talk to Lim, my top five switches every other fucking day.

SPEAKER_06 23:47

Yeah, we really won't know what's gonna be the real top five until like we actually get like them balls dropped, paused. And that's a major balls. But anyway, when the lottery comes and we actually see the picks, you know.

SPEAKER_03 23:59

And like I said, I fuck with AJ. One of the best players, but AC AJ also got the green light. Well, some of these other players that don't have the green light, like Waggler from Illinois. He ain't got the green light. He got to make it off that eight, nine shots. Right, right, right. And he's killing. He's killing. That's the thing about not going to go play for those blue buzz.

SPEAKER_01 24:19

Like AJ is like ready, prime time ready for the NBA.

SPEAKER_03 24:24

A mint A mint is what, six foot, ten, six foot eleven, average 17 on a team. If he played for BYU, we'll probably put up a quick 30. Because he handles the ball. So whoever Tennessee is.

SPEAKER_06 24:37

So let me ask you guys that. Who you think got the most upside since we gonna talk about who's actually we think like who day one?

SPEAKER_01 24:45

I said my name already, AJ.

SPEAKER_06 24:47

AJ, he'll be the chief party of like a rookie of the year candidate, whatever team you go to.

SPEAKER_01 24:51

Yeah, he gotta go to like somebody like no offense, Atlanta or uh somewhere like that, he's gonna ball out.

SPEAKER_03 24:58

Truth be told, to me, it's Darius and it's Labyrinth Falon from Alabama. If Labyrinth Falon depended, because he could play the point guard, shooting guard, or small four.

SPEAKER_01 25:11

But you you done think he was kind of a rhythm shooter doing the tournament just now?

SPEAKER_03 25:16

No.

SPEAKER_01 25:17

Like if he was on, he was on. But he was off, he was just missing completely, though.

SPEAKER_06 25:21

Nah. What about the kid from Houston? Is he is he like the real, because I'm not really sold on him, really.

SPEAKER_03 25:26

Kingston Flem is a beast, but I don't think he's gonna be a rookie year beast.

SPEAKER_06 25:29

I don't think he. I think he might fit in, like he'll grow later on, but I'm like, I'm not really sold on him, like everybody else is.

SPEAKER_03 25:36

But my whole thing is it all depends on where people go. Like, I like, was it Yaxo Lindenberg? Lindenborg. Depending on where he goes, he could be a monster. 6'9 and shoot the ball like that. Morez Johnson, depending on where he goes.

SPEAKER_01 25:54

Who's that white boy who's on fire in the Iowa State game?

SPEAKER_03 25:57

I'm telling you, that was a good ass game, man.

SPEAKER_01 25:59

What's the boy from Virginia?

SPEAKER_03 26:02

I'm not looking at any of them guys like that. Virginia, Virginia Tech. Because they do Virginia. Virginia.

SPEAKER_01 26:09

You ain't like that boy, the uh little light-skinned cuz.

SPEAKER_03 26:11

No, they are. My guy's the guy from Virginia, the foreign guy from Virginia Tech, the guy that's like 6'8 and is the point guard. Quick 17 the game. Yeah, he got a clip on him. Yeah. Shoot, my my sleeper to be a beast next year if he decides to leave Jeremy Fears, the best point guard in college. He is good.

SPEAKER_01 26:31

The best point guard in college, though. I don't know, man.

SPEAKER_03 26:34

I if he leads his team, I think what is he? He leads the country in assists. He had the the second or number one and number one.

SPEAKER_01 26:43

Russell Wilson averaged goddamn three triple doubles in a row, three seasons in a row. Was he the best player ever? Fuck no, nigga. Stats don't mean shit about who was Russell uh Westbrook. I said Russell Westbrook. Yeah, he won't MVP. One year. But he did it for three years in a row, though.

SPEAKER_03 26:59

Yeah, you know what people said? We've seen enough. It's been it happened, even though people can't average the players.

SPEAKER_01 27:04

That doesn't make him the fucking best guard.

SPEAKER_03 27:08

It made him one of the best. He made him an MVP. He didn't do that in college either. He did pros.

SPEAKER_06 27:14

Speaking of the like draft and pros, like what do you think about like, you know, the commissioners getting tatted all like these teams sinking, even though he's part of the problem? You think are they gonna ever like a way they could ban like tanking? I mean, it's kind of like impossible. Because you gotta go by what the team says with like injuries and stuff like that. But you think like that tanking is kind of messing up the season?

SPEAKER_03 27:39

The only way you could do it is every few years you switch up the lottery, like just because you suck, you're not gonna be a lottery team. Yeah, that's what it should be. It should be this one. Well, you do you just don't know. We're gonna tell you before the draft. Well, these 14 teams are gonna be a lottery team. Right.

SPEAKER_06 27:51

That makes more sense than like these last four, you know, gonna be, and then we just gotta make this put terrible. Like, because you see the Bulls roster right now, I don't like like God bless them. I don't even think they're gonna win the draft with that. Even though they got these terrible players, we got like human resources and uh ex-AAU players. Like, it's I don't think we still not out of luck, we still not gonna get the first pick. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 28:17

But that's why they tanging for it. Just to have the opportunity to have enough pause, pause, balls in the fucking uh lottery to determine if they're gonna get the first pick.

SPEAKER_03 28:27

And that's why it's hard to determine how you're gonna pick these players. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 28:32

So how should they if it's one thing you could do to fix the draft, so you could go to a game and a team wasn't tanking, what would you do?

SPEAKER_06 28:41

Oh man, see, this that's a hard thing to even like.

SPEAKER_03 28:45

How can you stop tanking? Like I just said, the lottery's gonna be randomly picked and it's not gonna be the worst teams in the league.

SPEAKER_06 28:53

So you're just saying, like, the bottom four teams.

SPEAKER_03 28:55

So if you want to take not gonna be the worst team, anybody can be the fucking lottery. Who gives a fuck?

SPEAKER_01 28:59

So if you want to be the same.

SPEAKER_06 29:00

So you want the crazy crazy crazy case that'd be like, okay, then say hypothetically the Knicks win the championship and they're gonna have a number one pick the next year, like hell no. Like, that's that'd be crazy.

SPEAKER_03 29:11

Yeah, that's crazy. It stops tanking. That's the only way. There's no other way to stop tanking.

SPEAKER_06 29:17

So the draft is what the top, like the last 14 teams, right? Maybe they should expand it to like maybe 25. Nah, more than 20 more tanking, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 29:28

That's what I'm saying. The only way you're gonna have to change the lottery every fucking year?

SPEAKER_06 29:31

They should get back to like, like, instead of letting it be a draft, like it should be more like, let's make it real business. This is a real billion-dollar corporation. The player I want, let's, you know, figure it out, figure out a deal, and do it that way, instead of all this lottery crap.

SPEAKER_01 29:47

I heard on one of them talking here shows. What about if they let the player pick where they wanted to go?

SPEAKER_06 29:53

Fuck no. Yeah, no. Fuck no.

SPEAKER_03 29:54

They might be going to the Lakers, Miami, and in New York. Fuck no. You won't you won't. We already get there's already a problem with young players getting too much shit. That's why the league is fucking going down now. You wanna give them the power to pick their goddamn team? Shit. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 30:12

They can't even pick the right college. You want them to pick an NBA team.

SPEAKER_03 30:16

There's a motherfucker playing for BYU, man.

SPEAKER_06 30:19

They gave him eight million.

SPEAKER_01 30:23

Eight million some white girls.

SPEAKER_06 30:25

You can't even touch them. We gotta go there with that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 30:30

So it's nowhere to fix the draft then. There's nowhere to stop taking. No. No. You can't.

SPEAKER_06 30:36

So we just stuck in this motherfucking Like we stuck in the matrix with this, man. It's like, you know. Damn if you do, damn if you don't.

SPEAKER_03 30:43

Or the thing is, you just gotta look at teams and you really gotta pay attention to how they lose in games, and they gotta get a fucking fine. Hit them where their pockets are.

unknown 30:51

Ooh.

SPEAKER_06 30:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 30:54

Well these billionaires are okay with a million-dollar fine.

SPEAKER_03 30:59

That's like$10 a year. Or even better. If your teams, you know, a lot of people like to make their players rest. They get them resting games. Your players on these top teams can only rest against these bad teams.

SPEAKER_01 31:12

No, no, no. The thing that pissed me off is when they're playing. And it's the fourth quarter, it's a tight game. And they take all the star players out and have these motherfuckers who I hoop with that fucking run and shoot. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_03 31:28

No. And they sit against Washington.

SPEAKER_01 31:30

What are you gonna do now? What you gonna do? So Luca can't get a chance to get 90 to end on Washington.

SPEAKER_06 31:36

Speaking of that, so it's been a lot of like debate, like, you know, with Bam getting the 83 points. Like, to me, what was a better, like, I mean, of course, he, you know, he topped Kobe's record, but at if you got a chance to watch both games, if you ever seen both games, right?

SPEAKER_03 31:55

Who do you think was more oppressive far as like I think I think Bam would tell you Kobe's more impressive? Yeah, like NBA was not.

SPEAKER_06 32:03

You know, to get 83 is crazy. What do you get like 20 attempts, 40 attempts?

SPEAKER_03 32:07

This is the this is this was the difference, though. Yeah, this is the difference. Kobe needed that that 81 to win. Kobe would have had 76, they would have lost. I think he had 78, they would have lost.

SPEAKER_01 32:23

And the BAM shit, though, like I got the alcohol. I got the alert. No, I got the alert from ESPN. Bam got 62 on a third. I instantly turned to it. It's a fucking first grade ass game, then, G. I got kids that age, the games are terrible, cuz. They terrible. Running up and down, traveling, fucking free throws and shit. They barely can hit. It was a terrible game. But then I watched it over the next day and saw the first three quarters. He was balling the first three quarters, and then they just decided to make a mockery of the shit for him to get the fucking scoring title. I mean the uh second place of the scoring, uh, all-time scoring game. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_06 33:05

Yeah, it was kind of cringy. It was a little more cringy.

SPEAKER_03 33:08

Could we be real? Let's let's knock that 100 out. Because no one sees no, no one, no, first of all, don't you? No one's probably fucking alive to see it. There's no footage.

SPEAKER_01 33:18

I heard Mad Dog talk about he was there at reporting.

SPEAKER_03 33:22

He said it was just like BAM's game, though. Because what happened, because it happened what? In the late 60s? Yeah. The late 60s. Mad Dog was there. He said it was like Mad Dog.

SPEAKER_01 33:32

He said it was just like the Bam game.

SPEAKER_03 33:33

And we don't know if Mad Dog lying or not. You know why?

SPEAKER_01 33:36

He was there though, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 33:37

You know why? Because ain't nobody got no fucking footage of shit.

SPEAKER_06 33:39

All right, we ain't got no footage of nobody building the pyramids, but they up. Like, it happened. And people make it people make a whole new story about that every fucking day.

SPEAKER_01 33:46

But you know, Kobe could have probably beat that though. He has for the maths, though. 62.

SPEAKER_03 33:50

But limb, you know what the difference about the 100 game and the pyramids are? We could go see the pyramids. You can see the aftermath of the pyramids. We don't know what happened with the hundred that hundred game. Could have just sat everybody down, he could have just did his thing. You know what happened?

SPEAKER_06 34:04

You know, I'm gonna I'm gonna give you the play-by-play of what happened in the 100 game. 7-3 nigga played, 5-2 white people. That's what happened.

SPEAKER_03 34:13

If they were taller, I'm just what I'm trying to say, with it having any footage, we don't know if that game's just like band game, like you would say. We we don't know. Oh, he's getting close to 100. Let him go for it. I mean, didn't they have like a radio broadcast?

SPEAKER_06 34:28

So they did have some point.

SPEAKER_01 34:29

Radio broadcast could book. But hold on, let me ask you. Would it have been okay if him would have got 75 though? Like, 75 in a good game, no, it's better than the 83 that he got.

SPEAKER_04 34:40

Yeah, it would have been, it just would have been up there with the wrestling, with the uh Bookers and the Lucas and the I'm trying to get across.

SPEAKER_01 34:46

It would have been good if you got 75 in a good ass game and sat down because you're blowing these punk ass niggas out.

SPEAKER_06 34:52

You know what I'm saying? Yeah, you gotta go for it, go for it. That's what I say. I don't knock him. I would have did this to you. You do if you gotta if you got bums playing you, because he had straight bums.

SPEAKER_01 35:00

Like you about 20, though. Kobe got in a close ass game.

SPEAKER_06 35:04

Okay, that's Kobe's position.

SPEAKER_03 35:05

This is my position, though. Kobe was nice enough when he had his 62, he sat his ass down in the third quarter. Yeah. Then he went for 81 because he thought about the shit. But he needed that 80.

SPEAKER_01 35:17

But it was a close game, though. That's all I'm saying, though. B.

SPEAKER_06 35:21

I mean, that's not that's not bad. Yeah. If I walked through knocking, I would have done the same thing.

SPEAKER_01 35:26

I'm not bad enough from doing it, though. But I'm saying which one would have been real talking. Hold on. Which one would have been better? His 75 in a close game or that 83 in a blowout?

SPEAKER_03 35:36

75 would have looked just good. In a close game. No, I'm saying in a close game. Everything in a close game looked better.

SPEAKER_06 35:43

Everything in a close game. Like you said, don't blame the man, blame the competition. The competition wasn't ready.

SPEAKER_01 35:48

Then he shot 44 fucking free throws.

SPEAKER_06 35:50

Okay, stop happy.

SPEAKER_03 35:52

They should have put bam on his fucking neck then if they if they if they felt so bad.

SPEAKER_01 35:56

This ain't the fucking eggs. Ain't no Charles Oakley out there, Anthony Mason. That's the problem. RYP Mace. Saw that nigga at fucking Kevin with the fucking meat coat on and shit.

SPEAKER_03 36:04

Shit, somebody should have picked him on. Boom. You're gonna slow this shit down. But they was they was watching too. Yeah, that's why you gotta have some enforcement. The coach should have been fired, though. Yeah, the coach should have got fired, yeah. As soon as he walked off, as soon as they walked up, don't want me to go to the locker room, man. We got your shit packed already. Here you go.

SPEAKER_01 36:20

You ain't gotta get back on this flight, boss. We at home. Go straight home, killer.

SPEAKER_06 36:24

Yeah, that's I think this this kind of, and I don't want to bring it back to that, but this is like our problem with AAU, right? So let's go full circle with it. Like, so you know, today's game, if if you don't have no money, you can't really play basketball, you know, like with all these AUs and all these AEUs. On a real AAU team. On a real AU team. Back then you had to actually try out, and it wasn't like what, it wasn't like 20 to 40 AAU teams out there. Nah. It was the ones you saw in Slam magazine, and that was it. But do you think now that, you know, the way the game is going far as like with inner city kids, is this still a kid or affordable, like affordable game for like this for a kid to pick up and play, or do you now is this for like ex-NBA player kids and rich kids, people that got like money? Like, I don't I don't I don't see like a player actually coming from like you know from the ground up to actually make it to the league no more.

SPEAKER_03 37:26

There's there's a few of them. It's just they gotta be that fucking good. They gotta be like phenomenal. They gotta be that fucking good.

SPEAKER_06 37:33

You know what killed me when I saw like Bryson James and like in the US team, the the under 18, whatever US team, I'm just like, like, bro, it's like it's nebotism, and then it's like fucking wrong. Like, that type of shit is just wrong.

SPEAKER_03 37:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 37:49

Like, he can't even start on Arizona, like he's red shirt on Arizona, but he was on the the USA basically all-star team. You know how that shit goes.

SPEAKER_03 38:00

Like, you know how that shit goes.

SPEAKER_06 38:01

That's it. I mean, I that's I'm like, and y'all can say what I say. I'm not hating on a another black man putting this kid in a position to win, but like, bro, you taking food out of somebody else's mouth with that, bro.

SPEAKER_03 38:13

Because it comes to the point that I get what you're saying. Let me even gotta say that. At the end of the game, we talking about you talking about Bryce James. His dad's a billionaire, he was worth more than everybody in this fucking room and everything in this room that we're in now. So he so if my dad's a billionaire, right? There's a kid that actually needs this.

SPEAKER_06 38:29

Yeah, yeah, a kid actually, if my dad's a billionaire, it's so many opportunities that I have that I don't even have to even step on the court with. You know what I'm saying? I don't even have to play basketball. You know, it's it's kind of like really foul.

SPEAKER_03 38:42

If you love it, you love it, but at the end of the day, it is what it is.

SPEAKER_06 38:45

I'm going to college, no, I'm going to any college anyway. You know, I don't need to be taking, be a McDonald's all-American just to make my dad feel like.

SPEAKER_01 38:53

And you don't feel like you move in the field goal, though? Because you're going a little bit to nepotism against AAU. It's like. Everybody at AAU nigga don't have a billion dollar uh NBA father. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_03 39:05

I think what he was just trying to use that for an example. Went a little bit off. Yeah, I mean, I went to the house.

SPEAKER_06 39:13

I went a little bit personal, but I'm saying, like, even with AAU right now, like, if you got, you'll, if you got you and these other, like, you know, y'all make decent money, y'all make some good money. You and you, you and Alan make an AAU team, right? And we put our sons on there, right? And we and we recruit some top players in the nation. We get one or two of them, and we just, you know, play our kids, and like a kid that probably was just like, who just playing outside or just maybe had a chance to try out, doesn't even get that opportunity because we got our you know, nepotism team. You think that's fair? And so uh we might be skipping over the next.

SPEAKER_03 39:52

Maybe because coaches ain't the coaches, coaches ain't the same no more. You could be on the team, son, but you suck. You just gonna sit your ass in the fucking bitch. Exactly. But but for real, I forgot what I I forgot what I was watching, they came up with a good idea. That's what we were talking about the other day. Somebody said, is basketball a trench baby sport anymore?

SPEAKER_01 40:11

No. Like you got to be. I'm gonna tell you, I'm gonna fuck y'all up real quick, G. You know what? I have never seen so many white players in the NBA. Hands down. This is a perfect era, era, area, era, era era for motherfuckers that can shoot and play half-ass defense, cuz. That's all you need to. And I'm perfect for the fucking league, nah. I can act like I would play some defense. I gotta fucking jump out this world. Call me out anytime y'all want to. Y'all know I bet all day. But you have never seen so many.

SPEAKER_05 40:51

I didn't keep quiet.

SPEAKER_01 40:53

We have never seen so many white players in the NBA cuz. The NBA used to be 90% black. What is it now? 75? It's jumping down every year. 65. You gotta count the suburban white kids and the European players. Pager Stookovich's son is going to the NBA. He can who?

SPEAKER_03 41:10

100 years.

SPEAKER_01 41:11

He can really ball. So they are taking opportunities from these inner youth kids, which leads to your point.

SPEAKER_03 41:18

Real talk, uh, to go back, they're not taking opportunities. A lot of them are staying in college longer. Meaning when they go to the pros, they're not, they don't always start, but they're gonna be on those teams because they know how to run a team. You look at TJ McConnell, Gillespie off of other sons, Grayson Allen.

SPEAKER_01 41:43

So you think Grace, you think Grayson Allen should be in the NBA? Oh, a fucking two-pick at LA Fittings W hooping.

SPEAKER_03 41:50

Well, you talking about the guy that averaged like 15 games, 15 points a game?

SPEAKER_01 41:56

I don't believe Grayson Allen is the first one. Was it two years ago led the league in threes? I I don't believe Grayson Allen is the typical.

SPEAKER_03 42:03

There's no typical player in the NBA. Not anymore.

SPEAKER_06 42:06

I mean, you get to the point where you In the NBA now you can. If you get to the point you making to the NBA and you've been in the NBA for like five or ten years, bro, you're not average. You're not you're special. And I I don't I don't want to get to no race thing because that's just you know, in life, you know, the the game is more wide open.

SPEAKER_01 42:25

It's more it's simpler now.

SPEAKER_06 42:28

I don't think it's simple now.

SPEAKER_01 42:29

Ain't no fucking plays, nigga. Run your ass around, have some off of a three, shoot the three, miss it, run back down. G it's a fast-paced game now. But I don't know. You think fucking scores are 150, 130 now?

SPEAKER_06 42:41

I think with the game as evolving, and like what he's saying, like, compared to like a young black male, I gotta jump like the first year I get in college, the first three months, because I gotta take care of my whole family, you know, compared to like some white kids.

SPEAKER_03 43:00

Nowadays, I don't know why they even leave. You getting paid, stay there and develop. You get your get your few millions in college.

SPEAKER_06 43:05

And it's and it's and he and that's it's it's a little bit of greed on the on the on that side, but that's like what he's saying, like these, these some of these white players are able to develop more. So I mean, it I mean, the game is gonna be ever changing. We're gonna see more and more overseas players, this is how open the game is now.

SPEAKER_03 43:24

Like the Umar rolling over in this fucking three, these three These three four-year players coming out of college are predominantly.

SPEAKER_01 43:34

Jesse, you hear these niggas. Jesse, you hear these niggas?

SPEAKER_03 43:37

Are predominantly white. And they stay, and that's why they get in these, like I said, are they starters? Justin won't play shirt.

SPEAKER_06 43:45

Everybody had next houses and we'll let you know that. But anyway.

SPEAKER_03 43:49

Are they starters? Nah. But are they on these fucking teams? Yeah. I think what is it? Reed was the only one, the only American, him and Khan Canopa are the only ones I know that went to the top of the draft. That was just what, two years back to back? I'm like, how the fuck?

SPEAKER_01 44:04

Do you believe the NBA is about to be I almost say majority white because I think that's never gonna happen.

SPEAKER_03 44:11

Never. I mean, hey, it's it's still sprinkles, man. You looking at some teams that got groups of Maybe I need to start watching the Bulls.

SPEAKER_01 44:20

Maybe that's it.

SPEAKER_03 44:21

Hey man, hey, you ain't getting that in in in Orlando, Memphis.

SPEAKER_06 44:26

You know, you know how I feel about it? Hey man, let the white people play in the court and let us be the attorneys and be the owners then. And that's okay. We we can switch roles if that's gonna be with that, brother.

SPEAKER_03 44:37

But that just goes to truthfully the skills of basketball has changed. Just everybody. The thing is, basketball is a game that's that always been loved, but now I guess they're veering away. A lot of people are just veering away from baseball. It's easy money in b in basketball. Let's go roll this ball out, son, and get to it. Football is harder. Basketball is one of the easiest sports to make fucking money nowadays. Because you don't have to make it in America. You don't have to make it in you don't have to make it in the NBA. You can get the money in fucking college. You go to baseball, you got you in the minor league for so many fucking years. And it's in his stacked. So let's roll out that ball. Let's get this money, son. Let's go. And daughter, let's make this money.

SPEAKER_06 45:26

Yeah, speaking of daughter, the WNBA is trying to get some money now. They want to go and get that bread. So you think they're gonna have possibly have a lockout season, and you think that's the right choice for them?

SPEAKER_03 45:37

I I haven't been following it that much, but I know they threw out something. I know they're supposed to throw out a deal. I don't know if it was taken, I don't know if they took it or not, but I think going on strike is not a good idea for the simple fact that in college they're making money. You got players talking about I'm coming back to college. They don't even got to come back because they're getting paid. So for them to go on strike, I think businesses and these other schools say, well, we could up the money now to keep you for three three years. Juju, I know you got two more years. Well, how about we slip you five million and you stay right here? Yeah, it makes sense, but I think strong.

SPEAKER_06 46:19

I think they had a popular seat couple suit seasons. I think right now, you know, to kill the momentum, they'll they'll bring them back to like people not watching in the game no more. I think that's a strike will. Yeah, strike, I think a strike will kill the momentum.

SPEAKER_03 46:33

It does for every sport.

SPEAKER_06 46:34

And right now they hot. They got people that they got these big names that people love to see. They got these, you know, these actually something you can look at in the league now. So I s I know what they're trying to do, but I think it's like the the wrong attack right now.

SPEAKER_03 46:49

Strikes never help a league get better. It never viewership-wise.

SPEAKER_06 46:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 46:55

Everybody goes down. If it wasn't for the steroid era and home runs, baseball after the strike, it would have been dead. It would have been dead. Which is probably gonna go on strike after this season. Again. Basketball changed viewership-wise after the strike. Views didn't view it.

SPEAKER_06 47:16

You you think the WNBA, I mean, some of these uh stars from the WNBA are kind of like feeling themselves because they went to that rival league and they got that money.

SPEAKER_01 47:24

The thing is, they're making more money in the rival league now. And the problem is though that the WNBA is making money now. So now to like, you have to expand the season. You have to give us more games on national TV. Fucking ESPN is giving the whole a whole day. They're getting the Sunday now instead of baseball. So why go on strike then mess up the money, G?

SPEAKER_03 47:49

Yeah. And like I said, back to it, and doing all that. If I'm a junior and senior in college, I'm not gonna go deal with that bullshit. I'm doing the Olivia Miles. I'm staying here.

SPEAKER_01 48:02

You gotta go, it's like the snowball effect. It's it's fucking gone. It's getting bigger and bigger. Sooner or later, they're gonna get more games. What they're getting, 50 games now or some shit like that. 35 or 50 games, then later on, you might be having the NBA season. These motherfuckers is going up against NFL games and still coming on top sometimes. So don't mess up the money, ladies. My advice do not mess up the money. Get the money.

SPEAKER_06 48:29

Get the money. You know, and they and they got like this, they're trying to do some expansion teams and stuff. So, like, right now, I don't think it's like a good sign for them to strike. I know they, you know, they smelling it and they like, man, you know, it's actually real agents getting involved now, and this it's you know. Yeah, it doesn't make it. I really don't think this ain't you know, it's not like a strike when the iron's hot right now.

SPEAKER_03 48:53

It doesn't make it any better when the commissioner is a bitch. Yeah. I was done. If I was Caitlin Clark, I would have said, you know what, I'm not paying this year.

SPEAKER_06 49:03

Yeah, because what she's talking about, like, we made her. We made her basically. We made her because she's able to make 16 million.

SPEAKER_01 49:10

Has Caitlin and Paige played against each other in the WNBA?

SPEAKER_06 49:14

Uh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 49:15

Caitlin was hurt though, right? I don't remember. Have she did play one game against each other?

SPEAKER_03 49:18

Maybe she was. I know their teams played against each other, but I don't know if they played.

SPEAKER_06 49:22

So, well, it's a little bit more WNBA. Like, you think since, you know, Paige has emerged in the league, is eventually that the Caitlin Clark heat is gonna cool down a little bit.

SPEAKER_00 49:35

Shut down, nigga.

SPEAKER_03 49:37

I don't think it's gonna shut down because WNBA players, they, their, their spark lasts longer than anything else because it's only a few teams. Right. She keeps on putting up her points and keeps on putting Indiana on her back, it's not gonna go down.

SPEAKER_06 49:51

But we agree, though, that Paige is a better player, though.

SPEAKER_03 49:54

I I like Paige more. Paige is a good one. I mean, Paige is a more skilled player. Paige, to me, if it wasn't for her ACLs, would have probably been the best women's college player ever. I mean that fucking good.

SPEAKER_01 50:05

But Caitlin was hurt last year, so I really you really can't, you don't know. Yeah. But when she comes back this year healthy, we can see what she's gonna do then.

SPEAKER_06 50:13

She had a groin injury, right?

SPEAKER_05 50:17

No, she had a groin injury. I ain't speculating that. Check if it's when you understand she had a groin injury.

SPEAKER_03 50:25

She had an inner thigh injury. But yeah, like, but there's some, it there will be a time where it's gonna it's gonna be some problems because you got Hannah Hidalgo, you got Juju, you got old girl from Texas. I can't say that.

SPEAKER_01 50:41

Just the old girl from LSU that rap.

SPEAKER_06 50:43

No, you talking about from uh oh yeah, from LSU uh Fly J, Flo Jay.

SPEAKER_03 50:47

Yeah, she decent. She decent.

SPEAKER_06 50:50

She coming to Chicago, they're gonna drive the ass.

SPEAKER_03 50:52

I don't think she that good. I don't think she's great, I think she's decent.

SPEAKER_06 50:56

She's decent enough to make the lead.

SPEAKER_03 50:57

Yeah. Ozzie, AZ, I mean, AZ. AZ is gonna be cold. Azy, beast. Might get drafted with her with her woman.

SPEAKER_06 51:06

Yo, that's crazy. Well, how y'all feel about the the one girl, the like the heavy set girl they always give bullshit to with Audi Cooks?

SPEAKER_03 51:15

Buckets.

SPEAKER_01 51:16

She don't play no fucking defense. She just wobbles.

SPEAKER_03 51:18

So she's meant for the league. She just wobbled goddamn on the lane. She's not, that's not her. Hey. They be running. If they told Audi to give up, to give up 10 points for two blocks and two steals, they gonna lose every fucking game. That's a fact.

SPEAKER_01 51:36

She a scoring machine. Yeah. I give her that. She gonna hoop.

SPEAKER_03 51:39

Oh fuck her defense if she gotta if she gotta put up 20 plus points every fucking game. It's not like they're scoring 100 points every day.

SPEAKER_01 51:44

She don't be trying or she do that Luca shit that.

SPEAKER_03 51:47

When it's that easy. Hey. And the thing is that, oh, because she's big, nah. You had the Courtney sisters or whatever their name is. She'll be acting on the two twins. You had a little bit of a shit.

SPEAKER_06 51:59

I mean, I respect the offense. She's an offensive juggernaut, but you know, let's play a little D. Let's make it a little bit.

SPEAKER_03 52:06

Give a fuck. Keep on getting buckets, goddammit. I ain't there to watch you to play no fucking D in the first place. No one's watching women's college basketball to see that defense. None of y'all was watching Baylor when Mr. Grinder was playing. What? Well me, none of y'all was watching Baylor. When Mr. Grinder was playing. Call him Mr.

unknown 52:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 52:30

Hey, she said she's a she's Papa. She's a dad.

SPEAKER_06 52:33

Yeah. Hey, you know what they say about WNBA, man. No D allowed. So uh unless you're Britney Grinder, you know, she poppy. So let's get into some. We had all this basketball talk. Let's get into some NFL. The latest NFL news. We got some NFL trades. So of all- Hold on, G.

SPEAKER_01 52:54

I'm gonna stop. We gotta start. How is that running back quarterback still in the league, G?

SPEAKER_06 53:00

Who you talking about Fields?

SPEAKER_01 53:02

Yeah, you know who the fuck I'm talking about. The fuck I'm running all the time. Because he just got traded. He's a running back who plays quarterback. He shouldn't be in the fucking league, G. I mean, he gets a lot of opportunities. I think he's a nice guy, probably in the fucking uh facility.

SPEAKER_06 53:17

I mean, I mean the Chiefs was that's I'm not saying that's like an amazing, you know, it's something to fill a spot until Mahomes comes back.

SPEAKER_03 53:25

That tells you something. Well, you look at him, if you look at the two teams he last played for, the Jets and the fucking Steelers, they are lacking on fucking offensive fucking weapons. Every team he damn near played for, his best year offensive year was his last year with the Bears when they finally had DJ Moore. And they said, Oh, we're gonna second the team, you gone now.

SPEAKER_01 53:47

He was still running for us, fucking white though.

SPEAKER_03 53:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 53:50

I mean, the offensive line still wasn't good yet, though.

SPEAKER_03 53:52

He had one, he had one wide receiver with the Jets. He had one pickings wasn't even that fucking good.

SPEAKER_06 53:59

But we can't keep making excuses for this nigga, man. Like, it is what it is. You gotta put up a shut up at one point.

SPEAKER_03 54:05

He's a running back playing, but you look at the quarterback. But if you look at the Jets, did they do any better when the backups came in?

SPEAKER_01 54:09

Nigga, he's a running back playing quarterback, cuz. That's that's it, that's all. Next, next to I don't want to keep talking about that light-skinned podcast. You brought him up. I apologize.

SPEAKER_06 54:20

So, how do you feel about like the DJ Moore trade to Buffalo? Is that is that their missing piece?

SPEAKER_01 54:26

I don't know. It's good for us.

SPEAKER_06 54:27

I don't think so.

SPEAKER_01 54:28

Well, he would have been a third or fourth wide receiver, fam, game of 24 million.

SPEAKER_03 54:33

Why would he be third or the fourth wide receiver?

SPEAKER_01 54:35

Because Rome, Cove, Comet, Luther.

SPEAKER_03 54:39

You didn't Comet hardly played. He would have been a number one or a number two.

SPEAKER_01 54:43

He was not gonna be number one. Rome's the number one now.

SPEAKER_03 54:46

Rome hardly plays.

SPEAKER_01 54:47

You a Packers fan, nigga.

SPEAKER_03 54:48

Ron hardly plays. Ron was hurt last year. Exactly. He hardly plays.

SPEAKER_01 54:53

Luther's gonna be a better wide receiver than him. Let's go bazoo. Isn't that the same? No, nigga.

SPEAKER_04 54:58

He hardly plays. He was injured last year. He hardly plays.

SPEAKER_01 55:01

Luther's gonna be a better fit than Will. Okay. Caleb. He costs the fucking game against the Rams, nigga. No, he run those games.

SPEAKER_06 55:12

Caleb threw some bullshit in there.

SPEAKER_01 55:15

No, you saw that catch Rome? Hold on. Nah, because he was on the fucking side level. Hold on, Lynn when you make these fucking clips too. Make sure you put in your y'all niggas won on Caleb fans at first, either, nigga.

SPEAKER_03 55:25

Who said I'm still a Caleb fan? Who said I'm a bearish fan? I'm just a realist. I'm just a realist. Did anybody say anything? This might be if if one if Lim did a line, you did some shrooms. This motherfucker having a whole conversation with himself. Whole conversation. I think I'm the only one that picked the bears to go to the fucking Super Bowl. I said, if they beat this team, they gotta go to the Super Bowl, right? Nah, that's run back to tape. Run back to tape.

SPEAKER_05 55:55

You said the tape. What was that? What do you say?

SPEAKER_03 55:59

I said they beat the number one team. I said they beat the number one team. I'm picking on to go to the Super Bowl. We can roll back the episode. That's why everything's recorded. Right. And you know he said this guy. What's wrong with him? I said they beat the team, so hey, they gotta be up there. Exactly. You said that in a sarcastic. No, I didn't.

SPEAKER_01 56:15

No, you was hoping. I'm gonna argue with this nigga. So hold on. So y'all believe the DJ Moore was a good trade for the No I thought the Bears should have kept him. It worked for Buffalo, not for the Bears. Work for Buffalo.

SPEAKER_06 56:24

Not for the Bears.

SPEAKER_01 56:25

So the third wide receiver, even second wide receiver, should get He was the number one wide receiver last year. He's not gonna be the number one wide receiver. He was the number one wide receiver last year. He wasn't gonna be the one future. In the future tight end is gonna be one or two in a fucking receiver. Rome's gonna be number one in the Coke a three. DJ was gonna either be three or four, though, nigga. Nah, the fuck he wasn't.

SPEAKER_03 56:51

Nah. You can't even trust in Rome to be something if he can't hardly stay on the field. He's gonna stay healthy this year. No, how you know? You was pillow talking with him? I'm good. See, that's the thing. You don't know. You gotta take it about what you saw last year. I can't go on hypothetical. Well, if you would like me to talk to Keenan Allen ass, you said you just have a good year.

SPEAKER_01 57:10

Bring that shit. Put that picture up here. Me and Keaton and Turkey Caicos, nigga. Bothering the man. No, I won't bother the man.

SPEAKER_03 57:19

What happened? He had a shitty season talking to your ass. He said, This motherfucker might. He's a bit he's supposed to get the guy here. We got a good ass time. You had a good ass time, motherfucker.

SPEAKER_01 57:31

First off, it was me, him. What's the nigga who uh fucked up the Jess uh the Steelers season? Put Aaron Rodgers, he was supposed to run a fly route and he did a post.

SPEAKER_03 57:43

Oh yeah, Aaron Rodgers called his ass out.

SPEAKER_01 57:47

He was there too.

unknown 57:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 57:50

So funny how a lot of people fucked up if they hung out with you. I'm just saying. I'm just calling it.

SPEAKER_06 57:57

Believe it. So what was another like trade that like you feel like.

SPEAKER_01 58:00

What about that Max Cross? You think the Baltimore Ravens fucked over the uh Raiders? No.

SPEAKER_06 58:06

Did they know what was going on with him?

SPEAKER_01 58:08

No, niggas make trade all the time. Niggas can't pass affiliate.

SPEAKER_03 58:12

They just saw, yeah, I guess he had too many injuries for the motherfuckers. But at the end of the day, you see what he brings. I would have kept him. I would have said, could we work out something on a don't expect well, I think he just got signed anyways, a deal. But I would have like, you know, to work out something. Because they wanted the same guy, the guy they got from the Bengals, they still was gonna get him.

SPEAKER_06 58:31

Right. But Max. That must have been like a real bad physical or something. They must have saw something that we don't know about.

SPEAKER_01 58:39

He just started walking a week ago before the fucking physical they gave. Oh, for real? So they when they made the wheel.

SPEAKER_03 58:45

I think that was a lie. Because when they made him sit out saying he was injured, maybe he showed videos of him.

SPEAKER_01 58:50

But he had the surgery though.

SPEAKER_03 58:51

Maybe he wouldn't show the videos of him going to go shoot around and play basketball.

SPEAKER_01 58:54

But he had the surgery though during the season, though. And he just finished the surgery and just started back walking last week, the week before.

SPEAKER_03 59:01

If that man goes out and ball this shit, they're gonna look fucking stupid.

SPEAKER_01 59:05

I agree.

SPEAKER_03 59:05

Niggas get injured every fucking day in this league.

SPEAKER_06 59:08

What do you guys think about like the this uh this quarterback controversy they have in Minnesota right now? Where they got what's his face?

SPEAKER_01 59:15

The midget versus nine? Oh, you can't say that no, I apologize. I you can't the small king. That's what's gonna be.

SPEAKER_03 59:31

We have to see. I don't know what JJ has been doing in the offseason. Fucking white girls.

SPEAKER_01 59:37

I just seen him on some fucking shit.

SPEAKER_03 59:39

But my whole thing is JJ came off, had a few injuries. He got I take I always look at a year after an injury as like, uh, but both of them injury prone, no.

SPEAKER_01 59:48

That's the killing part. Kyler fucking injury prone, JJ injury prone.

SPEAKER_03 59:52

Well, JJ will be injury prone if he continues. The motherfucker will be.

SPEAKER_01 59:55

They still gonna finish in fucking last place in the NFC North. That's hand's name.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:00

You never know that with that fucking division. You never know with that division.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:03

Hell no. It's gonna be between always, it's gonna be between us and the Packers for number one. Detroit, I don't think Detroit's gonna come out that shit this year. They should have never let go of Montgomery. They got Pacheco all punk ass, man. He can't stay healthy either.

SPEAKER_06 1:00:21

Who you think is gonna be like the sleeper team that like we might not be expecting, but they got some pieces that, you know, I wouldn't call them a sleeper team, but I'm fucking with Houston. Houston? Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:33

You trust CJ like that though? He ain't had a good year since his rookie year.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:39

Only been in the league three years, right? Yeah, wasn't he? He he got he was injured. This is for he was he was injured like his second year.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:47

I would look at a year after injuries, those are gonna be a little bit fucking different.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:50

He just played so bad in the playoffs, though, that kind of shit happened. Turned me off to him, man. I'm a CJ fan. I got trust. Put it like this. Put it like this. Nico and Tank coming back too, that might help him, though.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:05

You gotta look at these quarterbacks. There's only a few good quarterbacks, really, that play good all the way through. Caleb. Nah, Caleb don't play good all the way through. He doesn't play good all the way through. You know how many games the Bears. You know how many games the Bears could have won if he actually would have played good the first three quarters?

SPEAKER_01 1:01:23

Caleb gonna do better.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:23

Bears could have gone fucking undefeated if he could have played good. In the first three quarters. But fourth quarter magic always always happened. But there's only a few that's, you know. But when I see a quarterback coming off of injury, I'm giving him a year. You don't know. We see them on the in the fucking field. We don't know how that shit really is. We don't know how they're feeling after every fucking game. They're getting paid to say, take your ass out, they we paying you. Fuck it. We're not gonna have you sit down.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:53

But Houston was winning with the uh backup though, uh Mills, though. Houston has a good team. They got a good defense. A great defense. Fuck the good.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:02

You know, I don't know. This is gonna sound crazy. I kind of was I wanna kind of see what the Jaguars actually do.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:09

Jaguars has lost that fucking run. They're just like ETN. Oh, well, fuck.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:14

I want to see if Hunter's gonna like have his breakout year this year.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:18

Hey, can Hunter still get rookie of the year because he only played what, two games?

SPEAKER_03 1:02:21

No, he played more than two. He played more than he played a lot. He dismissed like the last three or four games. That's it. But you gotta remember, the only reason the Jaguars is up there because the Colts injury bug hit their ass.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:34

You know my sleep is though, I ain't gonna bullshit you. It's Cincinnati.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:38

Cincinnati. They made regular moves.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:41

I don't know if I can ever call them a sleeper. Because of Burrow, James. They just been injury, they just been beat up by injuries. But healthy, uh, they a problem. They a fucking problem. They need offensive line.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:57

They got a couple, a couple of things. We'll see when it will be agency. We'll see when the shit starts, you know? Defense, they got they picked up a couple people doing the defense.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:05

It was like my favorite move. I think my favorite move I want to say is Evans going to the 49ers, but you never fucking know.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:15

But Kittle might be out for the whole year, though. That's the thing, though. Kiddo got the ACL in uh later year, later season.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:22

The way they plug players in, like they plug quarterbacks in. It's a good system when people are in healthy. Kansas City can make some noise that they end up signing Jennings.

SPEAKER_06 1:03:33

Yeah. Well, I'm I'm most excited about, you know, Sanders is gonna have his MVP season this year. You know your boy, man, from the Browns, Shador, baby. Shador is gonna have his breakout season.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:49

You know that the Browns were looking at Kirk Cousins.

SPEAKER_06 1:03:51

Oh, so they wanted to get their money stolen this year.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:54

They wanna get Kirk Cousins. Hell no, we need Kirk Cousins. Asian. Should be in the Hall of Fame, nigga. Well, how do you think no more bags than anybody?

SPEAKER_03 1:04:05

Uh Kirk Cousins has some motherfucking seasons. He has some fucking seasons.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:10

You gotta thank RG3 for getting hurt, though.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:12

No, you gotta think the rescue is for uh franchise tagging his ass two years in a row. That's where that money came from. A lot of that money came from. Because they had to pay him a lot. He like, motherfucker, I want a full contract. Because he has some great years. Minnesota has some great years. They had some great fucking years, but when he plays bad, he plays bad. When he's up, he's up. You never know with Kurt.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:35

Save his money too. This motherfucker still drives a minivan.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:38

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:39

That's crazy. 2010, too, nigga.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:42

Just for his wife to go fuck some big burly nigga on the stand and take half his shit.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:48

Alright. Yeah, so I think this season's gonna be an exciting season with all this. It's still moves happening, but you know, we'll we'll see how the season is gonna go. Uh something that we usually don't really get into, but because of the, you know, the climate, and I'm gonna get to my my soccer expert over here, with the World Cup, you know, all these incidents happening like in Mexico, do you think that would be something that will actually impact the World Cup? I know it's big money and big business. Ain't shit impacting. You don't think like the world is and all these like possible?

SPEAKER_03 1:05:25

FIFA already said they ain't changing shit. They good. They ain't changing shit.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:30

First cub is bigger than politics, man. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:33

It's bigger than war. You think they you think they were you think they worry about some cartel? Yeah, no. They will be wiped the fuck out. They will be the world, FIFA, the world.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:45

You know how much money's in this shit? Always remember Pablo had a fucking uh soccer team. Yeah, cartel. Soccer is always number one.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:53

And when they wanted him down gone, what they do? They got the mind. That's just America. Let's think about the rest of the countries. He ain't fucking up the World Cup. So they might team up the old. People heading back to Mexico now.

SPEAKER_07 1:06:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:08

They're not gonna stop the World Cup. Trump can bomb whoever the fuck he wants to. It ain't stopping the World Cup.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:15

He could bomb Iran and them motherfuckers, those same people on all them soccer will be.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:19

They still gonna turn a team.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:21

They still gonna still see. You know what Trump's gonna do? Trump's gonna be like, sit there, shut the fuck up. This is bigger than you. His dementia heaven has.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:33

Alright, well we got to some deep stuff right there. So let's get into some fun stuff. In the spirit of March Madness, right? A little off-topic subject, you know. In the spirit of like, you know, sports and music and stuff like that with March Madness, do we have like a final four all-time rap albums?

SPEAKER_01 1:06:54

And when you ask this, though, G, there's only two that come in my mind that's like all great to me.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:59

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:59

Blueprint and all eyes on me. I don't understand. Those are my two favorite albums. The other two, they can go from the Chronic to Fucking Homecoming to Blueprint 2 to get Richard Dot trying. That's it fluctuates with that. Them next two. But Blueprint and All Eyes on Me are one and two with it. I got my four. Okay. What's your four?

SPEAKER_03 1:07:23

Blueprint. This is not in any order. My dark twisted fantasy.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:29

That's a good one, too. That's always in there.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:32

Dark and Hell is Hot. And I love my Ghostface Killer Supreme Clientele.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:41

It's all right. Hey, what's the Ghostface? 90% of that shit he was saying there. Like, what is the first thing?

SPEAKER_01 1:07:47

I thought he was gonna say the purple tape, though, nigga.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:49

This old fake ass New York ass nigga. Hey, it's always ranked the top 15 greatest album.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:55

Yeah, but If a lot of niggas are saying 15 minutes of the album, you don't know what the hell he's talking about.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:00

I bet you love listening to the album.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:02

Yeah, I'm gonna listen to it. Yeah. Uh-huh. So my top four is uh Reasonable Doubt. Okay. And this is my top four, so don't kill me. So it's Reasonable Doubt. Get Richard. Okay. Twist the Dark Fantasy. And only Bill for Cuban links. That's my That's the shit I listen to all the time.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:33

So you think Reasonable Doubt is Jay-Z's best album?

SPEAKER_06 1:08:36

It's his best album. I mean I mean, if it it as a person, it's my personal choice. I get you.

SPEAKER_07 1:08:45

I get you.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:45

And I like Blueprint, you know, now that I listen to it, it's some songs that like I've not listened to. You know, it's it's like whole veto. What was it?

SPEAKER_03 1:08:59

Yeah, it's one of my favorite ones too. Yeah. People never caught that shit.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:05

Yeah. He said he don't like it. I don't like it though. I mean, and he was blasting us on it. Didn't he say what? And then fucking. If I'm, what he said, with big shit, what'd he say? If I'm the fucking, if I'm not the closest to big, if I'm not better than big, I'm the closest. Like, that's blasphemous, bro.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:25

If Biggie was there here. You don't know that. You don't know if Biggie would have fallen the fuck off. Hell no. You don't. You can say hell nah, but people didn't think DMX was ever gonna fall the fuck off.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:35

Coke made him fall off.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:37

No, he was already on Coke before he got on. Nah, he got more access.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:41

He got more access to Coke.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:42

I can't base anybody off two albums. He has great album Biggie's fucking great. But he's gonna say he still would have been like that. You don't know.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:50

You I see I ain't putting no dead people in there because like the the top two niggas that the really, if I really was finna be a dick about it, I would have said Tupac Machiavelli. And I wouldn't have said fucking.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:02

You think Machiavelli better than All Eyes on Me?

SPEAKER_06 1:10:04

Oh, you smoking that shit. They like that. I'm I it's like personal taste. I gotta listen to everything.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:12

I gotta retract my statement when Jordan said, I mean when Jay said he's come back, like he had the four or five loan, that was the black album. That's one of my other favorite albums.

SPEAKER_06 1:10:19

Yeah, black album is cool too. He pumped fake retirement though. He said in the he said he's coming back that shit like the four. He was telling Dane that shit. So he can cut the check and some shit. He's trying to pump fake Dane. Like, you know I'm retiring, right? With your ass. But yeah, to me, like rated to die set the tone to me for everything. I mean.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:43

I'm surprised one of you New York niggas didn't say uh Ill Maddo.

SPEAKER_06 1:10:48

Fuck Nas, man. I mean Nas is great, but I'm shocked though.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:52

But I was expecting one of you niggas to say ill mad.

SPEAKER_06 1:10:54

Listening to the beats, I can't. To me, I can listen to Nas album without listening to the Is it your first favorite album of New York rapper?

SPEAKER_01 1:11:05

First off, I said it's one and two, nigga. It's Pac. Yeah, I haven't decided. And Pac is basically a New York. Pac is from Cali, nigga. He's from Baltimore.

SPEAKER_06 1:11:16

Hey, Pac is from Baltimore. He's a great actor that took a stab. J No.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:21

I want you to comment on this clip when let him uh hook it up and tell these niggas where Pac from.

SPEAKER_06 1:11:26

Pogg is from Baltimore. He's from New York. Nah, Pac from Alley. Something from the Bay for some reason.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:32

He's from Oakland, nigga. That motherfucker from Baltimore.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:35

He did the smartest fucking thing. Didn't he go to Duke Ellison? He was a smart, he was a smart motherfucker. I'm gonna adopt this fucking style. And it worked for him.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:44

Y'all ain't fuck with The Chronic though?

SPEAKER_03 1:11:46

The Chronic is like, man, I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:49

I think that was my first like tape that was in like repeating the fucking first whip. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_06 1:11:54

You old as hell.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:55

I know, right?

SPEAKER_06 1:11:56

What was all right? So a better question. What was like the first CD that you bought? And it was like, you know, it's your personal Outcast Aliens.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:05

Oh, for real? Yeah, that's easy for me.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:09

I bought my first CD in '96. So it was Chriss Cross, Young, Rich, and Dangerous.

SPEAKER_06 1:12:18

I I think the first CD I bought was with my own money.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:22

I thought you saw him with our own money. Yeah, I'll cast Aliens my first CD I bought with my own money. I had Chriss Cross though, too. My OG bought that. That's when we used to sign up for that seven CDs.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:33

The Columbia Hells Hey, that CD got to this day got one of my favorite songs ever. That's why I was like, Jermaine Dupree, really that motherfucker for producing this shit. He got a song with the Brad Aaliyah, some motherfucker I never heard of, still to this day, but he killed it all.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:49

Hold on, G. Are we just talking about rap albums? Because the greatest album to me, I know he's a fucked up individual, is R. Kelly 12. Like, no nigga. Hey, R.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:02

KellyTP2.com and John and John B cool relax on my two favorite RB albums of all time.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:08

Listen, R. Kelly TP2. I mean, I take it back. I was took it on 12, but R. Kelly TP2 is one of the greatest albums ever. Mm-hmm. You put that motherfucker, you hit play, G, the party just started. That's why they didn't lock him up when he peed on that little girl. Yeah. Oh my God.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:26

Hey, Chocolate, you could rank his album. You can rank three of his albums before you get in somebody else's album. Throw in the chocolate factory in that motherfucker. I'm more of a confessions guy.

SPEAKER_06 1:13:35

That's what you're talking about.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:37

He's like a herpes ass nigga.

SPEAKER_06 1:13:39

Oh, you like a pedophile? We gonna go there. But yeah. I mean.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:45

Confession is your favorite RB album?

SPEAKER_06 1:13:47

Yeah, man. I'm not really an RB head like that. You know what I'm saying? But that's why I go to everything at the end.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:52

T B to court, cuz. TB2.com and John B cool relax.

SPEAKER_06 1:13:57

John B cool. John B.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:59

John B done fell off so much. I'm at the city binary of where the fuck I was at. This nigga, this crackhead ass. No, alleged crackhead ass nigga, man, on stage, boy. I know a dope thing when I see one, boss. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 1:14:13

You didn't you didn't get too close because you make that motherfucker lose his talent too. Fucking hate him, bro. This motherfucker taking souls.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:24

Take that off, nigga. No, you motherfuckers from the first Mortal Kombat.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:29

You taking souls, motherfuckers.

SPEAKER_06 1:14:34

Taking souls. And on that note, it's been another great episode for me. Get out of here, bro. Before we get out of here, do anybody got something to shout out, man? Anything you don't want to promote?

SPEAKER_01 1:14:48

So you want to catch me? I'll be at Wendy City West of the Ryan on March 20th, smoking me some cigars. Some niggas' birthdays up there. Some of the guys.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:01

Tony and uh Tim.

SPEAKER_06 1:15:05

Shout out to Tony and Tim. How about you, Alan?

SPEAKER_03 1:15:08

I ain't got shit today, man.

SPEAKER_06 1:15:09

Oh yeah. Alright. And you know, I'm always, you know, pump the merch, man. Make sure you go to bonfire.com and you know get our merch, man. The keyword, them guys. And we're coming out with a Patreon soon. So it's actually up. I gotta add some more stuff to it. But yeah, go check us out on Patreon. Keep checking us out on Twitter and TikTok, whatever we show, Instagram. I do got one. YouTube. Oh, you got what you got?

SPEAKER_03 1:15:35

That fish fish. Man, I want to say shout out to Craig for checking MJ ass bring up another motherfucker, engineer on the show. Tell his ass again, you here. Fuck that shit. You here. Don't be worried about the last thing. Get up, Craig. Don't worry about the last I'm here.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:49

Get up, Craig.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:51

All right, man. Peace.