New Deal

On this episode of Them Guys Podcast, we dive straight into the intensity of the NBA Play-In picture and break down who we think is coming out on top. With the postseason heating up, we give our picks, sleeper teams, and who might shock the league when it matters most. We also take it back and debate some of the greatest teams in NBA history that never won a championship—those squads that had all the talent but couldn’t finish the job.  Then it gets real—Is Doc Rivers actually an overrated coach? We break down his résumé, missed opportunities, and whether he’s been carried by superstar talent or just hasn’t delivered when it counts. On the women’s side, we tap into the WNBA Draft—who’s got next, who’s being overhyped, and what realistic expectations look like for the incoming class. And to close it out, we have a fun but real conversation about J. Cole—how legit was his basketball run, and what would his career actually look like if he fully committed to hoops?

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:16

Welcome to Them Guys Podcast. The only podcast to come from a real perspective with my homie and the one and only greatness.

SPEAKER_00 0:27

I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_01 0:28

And we're back, man. We're back with that sports shit that you need, I guess.

SPEAKER_02 0:34

You ever say your name on it on this shit?

SPEAKER_01 0:36

Oh yeah, my name's Lynn, by the way, if anybody cares. So you can rasp me on TikTok, right? So some some I don't know good news or bad news happened. Dark Rivers lost his job again. What else is new? What else is new? So speaking of Dark Rivers, so I don't know. If you could like put in a phrase or put in something in a dictionary with his picture, I guess fucking but shit in the bed with you see a picture of him because I guess every team he go to is just like they just dismantle and just fucking be discapulated and no, I don't know what's wrong with Doc Drivers the coach.

SPEAKER_02 1:17

Doc reminds me of a buddy that's got fired from New York that used to coach the Bulls from last year. Tiz? Tiz. He could get you there, but it's like, eh. After that, it kind of falters. And now it's just horrible. Yeah, he won a championship, but look who you won it with.

SPEAKER_00 1:32

But you don't think Doc was like Kendrick Perchant, Kendrick Perkins injury away from being a two-time champ?

SPEAKER_02 1:40

No, I don't think Kendrick Perkins was gonna move the needle, man.

SPEAKER_00 1:43

Game seven, you'll think he's gonna be a good one.

SPEAKER_02 1:44

I don't think he's gonna move the needle. I think the Lakers had to get a bag because everybody else on the Lakers stepped up. Kobe didn't even have to go out there. Kobe had a bad game. Everybody else stepped up. So right then and there.

SPEAKER_01 1:56

My boy. I just don't think he just a closer, to be honest. I don't think he knows how to really close games. You know what I'm saying? He over the plate players. I mean, I mean, everybody's a Hall of Famer these days, you know. But not to just disrespect the Hall of Fame, but it just seems like every time when it comes to the end, him and Chris Paul, them two guys never need to meet. I want to never meet them making coffee, playing basketball, ordering a pizza. These motherfuckers will fuck up any situation when it comes to like a last minute, anything that's like three minutes left, they guaranteed to fuck it up. Everybody ain't.

SPEAKER_02 2:36

And just because we all from Illinois, everybody's not used to that Maywood shit. Doc came over there with an edge.

SPEAKER_01 2:44

Yeah, don't bring, don't bring uh fucking blame proviso east because he be fucking up.

SPEAKER_02 2:49

No, he came over with an edge, and his main thing, he lost the players with his attitude and how he acts. I might think some of them players might be bitch made. You don't know. Tough tough coaching is supposed to be good. I know they say, well, they're they're professionals, you don't supposed to say certain shit. Fuck all that. I'm not trying to make an excuse for Doc, but some of the stuff that comes out saying, you know, I coached championships before you need to fucking listen to me and all that, calling out players and meeting and shit. Kyle Kuzma, you know, coming to bat for other players. Shut the fuck up and let your coach coach.

SPEAKER_01 3:18

But I don't think about that. I don't think that's like the big problem. I think when it comes to the X and the O's and shit and closing games, I think that's what his problem is. Like, maybe he's not that great of a coach that we think he is.

SPEAKER_02 3:30

I agree 100%, but also it got something to do with him losing the players. He lost the players with the Clippers. Right. He lost the players here in Milwaukee.

SPEAKER_01 3:39

But then the other coach, Griffin, he lost the players too. So maybe, I don't know. I don't think it's all.

SPEAKER_00 3:43

He had a winning record. He was like 35 and 13 or not. But see, the thing with Doc, though, the problem with him was he had gave up on the season already. He had told people this was gonna be his last year. He wants to spend more time with his family and everything. He was checked out from the beginning, though. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01 3:58

So you think when Giannis got injured, he just officially checked out.

SPEAKER_00 4:01

No, nigga, he was checked out from the beginning of the year. He told people this was gonna be his last year.

SPEAKER_02 4:05

I think after Dane got hurt and they traded Dane back, he said, fuck this.

SPEAKER_00 4:09

The fuck we traded Dane for fucking Miles Turner? I know a fat nigga named Miles when I see it.

SPEAKER_01 4:17

Well, it sounds like a nigga that steal cookies anyway. So man, if we was to describe, like, let's play a little game. If we describe Dark Rivers in one word, what would that be? I'll start off. I'll say overrated. I feel like he's always been an overrated coach. Like he did that, you know, he had uh like a good series when he had the magic, and then he got an opportunity with Boston, which is like kind of a lucky, you know, it was more of like the president. Who's the GM at the time? I think he's a GM at the um, or the president at a was he now? He was the president at Utah now, but he was Danny Ames, yeah. I think he just fell into a good situation. That's the reason why he kind of he kind of lucked up in the situation.

SPEAKER_00 5:04

You got no one in Orlando, he had a chance to sign Tim Duncan. He fucked that up, too.

SPEAKER_01 5:08

Yeah, he fucked up. I was saying he's not a good coach. Yeah. Because he's somehow, what he said, you couldn't have wives on the plane? Yeah. Family. Family on a plane, too. I gotta sum up in one word, egotistic. Egotistical. Yeah, I see. I think he uh I think he has his balls, hang. He dragged his balls on people, you know what I'm saying? I I don't know, man. What about you, Mike? One word. Average.

SPEAKER_00 5:31

He's an average ass coach, man. Yeah, yeah. He has a great ass team. He got three. The big three was an awesome, really a big four with Ron, though. He had a great ass team.

SPEAKER_02 5:40

With a great bench.

SPEAKER_00 5:41

You know what I'm saying? He can win some games. Anybody could have coached that team shit. AC could have gone out there and coached it.

SPEAKER_02 5:46

Hell yeah, as long as I got James Posey coming off the bench. Exactly. I know that sounds weird, but James Posey's one of those few players that guard every fucking position. He did the same thing with Miami.

SPEAKER_00 5:55

The Clippers should have won a championship.

SPEAKER_01 5:57

They definitely should at least should have got past Memphis. That was ridiculous.

SPEAKER_00 6:00

I know this is a topic that's gonna come up, but they one of the teams that should have won a championship, though.

SPEAKER_01 6:06

They definitely, yeah. They was one of the would have could at least compete for it, you know. Yeah. So yeah, that I don't I don't understand like what's going on with Doc Rivers.

SPEAKER_00 6:16

He shouldn't be in the Hall of Fame. I made that joke earlier. He should have been in the Hall of Fame. He's not, he's an average ass coach, these average ass hall of fame ass niggas. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 6:24

Fuck it. He didn't do anything great. Should that Boston Celsius team be in the Hall of Fame? Yes. Him just solo? Nah.

SPEAKER_00 6:34

Well, what'd KG say? We made LeBron go to Miami, nigga. Mm-hmm. Alright?

SPEAKER_02 6:40

Oh, what free agents. Was it him or was it Orlando?

SPEAKER_01 6:44

Because he's gonna get past them motherfuckers. Yeah, I mean. So you are you think Doc's gonna have another coaching job? You know, you obviously. I think he's done. You think he's officially done?

SPEAKER_02 6:56

He might get another TV job. Yeah, if Doc coaches anything, it's gonna be college basketball.

SPEAKER_00 7:00

It might be his grandkids. It might be his grandkids. Grammar school and shit.

SPEAKER_02 7:05

He's gonna coach a little curry.

SPEAKER_01 7:07

Right. Yeah, I don't know, man. Well, you know, hopefully uh Doc lands on his feet, man. You know. He rich, he's good. Yeah, man. You know, I don't want to look like I know y'all guys on TikTok gonna say I'm shitting on another black man and all blah blah blah. Hey, fuck him. Get out your mention of the book. But fuck you. The guy's a bad coach. I mean, sorry.

SPEAKER_00 7:27

Yeah, fuck them troll ass niggas. I'm gonna start, hey, I'm telling you in a minute. I'm this is a warning for all you niggas that be in the comments. I'm gonna start on your profile page, nigga.

SPEAKER_03 7:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 7:38

How your shit on point, boy. I'm gonna start gunning you niggas, boy. All right. It's gonna be a roast session in this bitch. Then I might expose you on the goddamn show.

SPEAKER_02 7:46

Stop hearing these two niggas' feelings.

SPEAKER_01 7:50

Alright, so speaking of more NBA action and more disappointing NBA news, the NBA play-in is back for the seventh year. What's it, seventh, eighth year and shit? Yeah. So uh who we uh what's so what's what's break down the teams they have in the So we got on the East, we got the Hornets, the Heat, the 76ers, and the Magic. And on the West, we got the Clippers, Golden State, with the Suns and the Blazers. Out of that group, uh, we'll start with the West Coast. Who we think is gonna actually get those eight and seven spots?

SPEAKER_02 8:30

That's a that's a tough one. Ain't no four teams again.

SPEAKER_01 8:33

So the West has the Clippers. Clippers. Well, that was easy, I guess. They got Golden State, which they're gonna be playing each other. And the Suns and Blazers. You know, the whole format is weird to me, because like when you got like a win in a game, you lose a game, it's it's it's it's pretty goofy. You know what I'm saying? And then, you know, in the East, we got, you know, that's actually on right now, the Hornets in uh Miami.

SPEAKER_02 9:00

Southern Miami or Orlando to me.

SPEAKER_01 9:02

Yeah, 76ers in uh Orlando. I'm surprised the 76ers, you know, I thought they was gonna have a little better year, but they always drop.

SPEAKER_00 9:10

Yeah, Paul George wouldn't go do them steroids, boy. He didn't go to Spain or uh Europe like LeBron.

SPEAKER_02 9:18

Steroids ain't gonna help that motherfucker jump shot.

SPEAKER_00 9:20

No, it's he he more about injuries, though. He does steroids for injuries.

SPEAKER_02 9:26

Nobody nobody's playing bully ball in the NBA for him to muscle his way down to the hole, muscle his way down there.

SPEAKER_00 9:32

Why Luca go to Spain to get some fucking for his hamstring? You have got them real drugs, nigga.

SPEAKER_01 9:39

Motherfuckers shooting stem cells in their motherfucking legs and shit. But yeah.

SPEAKER_00 9:44

Well, Philadelphia, the problem was Joel and B, though, man.

SPEAKER_02 9:47

That's always a problem. He out he out now with some shit.

SPEAKER_00 9:50

But I think Joel needs to be the fourth, fourth, like role player, fourth best player on their team. I like Maxie, I like VJ. Maxie at one, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 9:59

VJ needs a lot of shots, though.

SPEAKER_00 10:01

He does just a fucking gun. I know he's no gun like that in the league, though, boy.

SPEAKER_01 10:06

Do you think at this point they should like try to like get rid of Embiid or try to wave him? Because at this point, he never played a he never played a full season.

SPEAKER_00 10:14

Like he got bad knees, bro.

SPEAKER_02 10:16

Okay, and they know that. And now it's something else he got. He getting some shit, surgery on some shit. It's not his knee. He might be out for the playoffs, you say? Or he might be out for the playoffs? I think he might be out for the playoffs. Maybe. They might be in surgery.

SPEAKER_00 10:30

If they lose, they might be out for the play. They need him for the play, man.

SPEAKER_01 10:34

John Bede is like motherfuckers. Join Bede is like motherfuckers that got like Chevy and Paula's that like made in 2001. Motherfuckers, no matter how many tents you put on the window, what sounds it is, it's still an old ass car that is broken down. Like, go buy some new shit. It's like a cutless. Yeah, niggas still be putting rails on the colors and shit. The 90s colors. Like, come on, dog. Like, at a certain point, you gotta give it up, man. So I think they they was quick to move on with Simmons. I think it's about time they it's time to move on, bro. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 11:26

But do you think the uh magic could beat the 760? Do they have even the magic?

SPEAKER_02 11:31

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 11:32

But I do, I think they will be my.

SPEAKER_02 11:37

Then they ran off like six of the last eight or seven of the last eight or something like that. So after they got Franz back, they they've been rolling. I don't know how they lost that last game against the Celtics playing the Celtics. Well, Vegas to me, but you know how that goes. All these starters played against the G-League Celtics team and lost.

SPEAKER_00 11:57

Do y'all like to play in, though?

SPEAKER_02 11:58

I don't give a fuck about it.

SPEAKER_01 11:59

Uh, you know what?

SPEAKER_02 12:01

More basketball on a.

SPEAKER_01 12:02

I kind of liked it more when Butler was on the heat. And it's somehow he just like get that team to the like, remember he got them all the way to the Eastern Conference Finals. He got them to the finals. Yeah, to the finals to the championship. So I I liked it with him because he had that showed how much of a dog he was. But I don't know, man. It's always up and down with it. I mean, I guess it's another thing for the gamblers, you know, to go, you know, to put some more money in, you know what I'm saying? But other than that, I don't I don't I don't feel it. I don't feel that. I don't feel the Fruit Bowl Cup. I don't feel none of that. I don't know, man. Everything's about money. Everything's about TV. They gotta get, they gotta feel these big TV deals, right?

SPEAKER_02 12:43

By the way, it's 18 seconds left. Miami up by one. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 12:48

First letter my parlay was goddamn Miami winning this game, though. I ain't gonna tell you that.

SPEAKER_02 12:54

You didn't think Bam was gonna get his ass body slammed.

SPEAKER_00 12:56

No, I I just believe that the Hornets weren't ready yet for the playoff shit. You know what I'm saying? It's their first year really winning.

SPEAKER_02 13:04

So the thing with the Hornets ain't won shit yet, though. Is the injury prone. When all the starters are healthy, they're 31-9, I think it is. 31 and 9. So that that's pretty decent.

SPEAKER_00 13:22

Get my vote.

SPEAKER_01 13:23

Knipple.

SPEAKER_00 13:25

Connipple.

SPEAKER_01 13:26

What's his name?

SPEAKER_02 13:27

Con Canova. Con Canova.

SPEAKER_01 13:29

I thought it was Con Nipple or something.

SPEAKER_02 13:31

You just got a fetish. It's okay. Alright, man, cool with that. Freaky man. I don't know. It have to be for me, rookie of the year have to be co-rooky of the year because Coop goddamn. You can't stop people getting 40 and 50 points, not getting, you know.

SPEAKER_01 13:42

The Cooper flag is a motherfucking.

SPEAKER_00 13:45

Okay, you're right. I was saying if they want they didn't want to do co-rookies, it should go to him. But I'm Do the media still vote on that shit or what? Yeah, yeah, the media still vote for that. It should be co-rookies of the year, like when Brandon uh Jake got it.

SPEAKER_02 14:00

Because he can't stop him on the shit.

SPEAKER_00 14:02

Hey, hit him. Put it on me. LeBron shouldn't have got rookie of the year that year, either.

SPEAKER_02 14:05

Hell no, it should have been Carmelo. Should have been Carmelo.

SPEAKER_00 14:08

Always never forget that shit. It should have been Carmelo winning rookie of the year.

SPEAKER_02 14:12

That put me on the path of being a hater.

SPEAKER_00 14:15

What?

SPEAKER_01 14:16

Will Bond still voting for Dwayne Wade in 2026?

SPEAKER_02 14:20

That put me on the path of being a LeBron hater. They gave him what? Miller was my guy. They gave him rookie of the year? Fuck him. Been that way ever since.

SPEAKER_01 14:28

So let's talk about the West. So I guess is Steph Curry gonna play in these games? I have no clue. He's playing. He's playing? Because he's gonna they're gonna try to do a Christmas miracle with him, you know?

SPEAKER_00 14:39

That's the only thing I kind of liked about the play. Because the Warriors and Clippers didn't have a chance to get in. They lost them last games, though. But who the fuck wanna see Portland or the Suns in the playoffs? Not me. Trash ass team. You want to see Golden State and fucking the Clippers in the playoffs.

SPEAKER_02 14:55

NBA, half of these NBA teams are just trash like a motherfucker in the first place. What is it? The Suns win. The Suns win, what, six more games than they did last year? They're in the play-in.

SPEAKER_01 15:06

This game made the difference. Well, we'll talk about some of these teams that are like, like, what they like way above 500. So you got like fucking fucking New Orleans. They're like 26 and 56.

SPEAKER_00 15:19

I don't mean to cut you off, but eight teams. It was eight or ten teams lost 55 games. That's the most game. 55 plus. 55 plus games. Yeah. That's the most history margin.

SPEAKER_02 15:31

Come on, cuz.

SPEAKER_01 15:33

Yeah, like I'm like.

SPEAKER_00 15:34

I can't believe Memphis was in that shit. I have faith. Jock came back here and there, even though he had that little situation.

SPEAKER_02 15:40

These players are athletic as fuck, but a lot of them don't know how to play basketball unless they're throwing up fucking 20 plus shots a game. Look at the stat lines for some of these motherfuckers.

SPEAKER_01 15:50

Yeah, I mean, what's what's the name all the eight teams that's actually uh I guess it's New Orleans, Dallas, the Grizzlies, Sacramento, Utah, Brooklyn, Indiana. Well, nobody expects Washington to do shit, but all these motherfuckers barely can win 20 games.

SPEAKER_00 16:09

Milwaukee. Washington better be good next year.

SPEAKER_01 16:12

Yeah, I think they will be. I mean, they got some good young pieces, though, but you see, they do anything, though.

SPEAKER_02 16:18

It's just a matter that that's really bad. So three teams from last year that was in the playoffs just fell the fuck off.

SPEAKER_01 16:25

Just fell the fuck off. That's NBA for you, though. Uh NBA fall. Yeah, they do fall apart. I think it's just not enough discipline.

SPEAKER_02 16:33

They go from winning 40 to 50 games at 20 something.

SPEAKER_01 16:36

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_00 16:37

But see, everybody's wanting to do that OKC uh formula. Keep losing, losing, get all these assets, get these draft picks, that then hopefully a draft pick hit.

SPEAKER_02 16:46

It wasn't even them losing, it was them making trades.

SPEAKER_01 16:49

Yeah, because they never really, they never really had a crazy losing season. You know what I'm saying? They just made actually made good deals. Like fucking what was that dumbass deal they uh they the Clippers traded who they are for George? Yeah, this dumb shit.

SPEAKER_00 17:05

SGA for George, they got a bunch of people though.

SPEAKER_01 17:08

Yeah, even Doc Rivers was even mad about that. Doc had a good had one good point one time. One of not many, but so speaking of that, I guess, you know, whoever comes out of the years play-in, we'll get to the playoffs. Who we got to actually, you know, who we think that's gonna actually like dominate the playoffs? Who we excited, what teams we are excited, or team that we're excited in the playoffs.

SPEAKER_02 17:37

Crazy for me to be a West Coast guy with the Lakers and shit. I'm excited to see the uh the Pistons and Cleveland Cavaliers play. I'm excited for them. They some high-scoring fucking teams. They know how to work.

SPEAKER_00 17:52

Hold on, you think uh Cleveland's gonna beat Toronto easily though?

SPEAKER_02 17:56

No, I said he said what team are you excited for? I'm excited for those teams. But they can. It's Toronto, it's nothing special.

SPEAKER_00 18:05

I think it's gonna go so much.

SPEAKER_02 18:06

Yeah, it could be a chance, but I'm just saying it's nothing special.

unknown 18:08

Right.

SPEAKER_02 18:09

It's just Toronto.

SPEAKER_01 18:11

You know who, you know who's on the on the they better win this series or this shit is over with? If the Knicks not beat the fucking Atlanta, they breaking that whole shit up because it's like at this point.

SPEAKER_02 18:23

I think they got Atlanta ass.

SPEAKER_01 18:24

They better beat Atlanta, but I think at this point, if I think it's finals a bust from New York.

SPEAKER_00 18:28

Hold on, you think Atlanta's gonna get beat like what? Gentleman sweep?

SPEAKER_01 18:32

I don't think it's gonna be a gentleman's sweep, but I think I know it's more on the Knicks side that they need to get y'all niggas just be smoking, doing crap, doing y'all.

SPEAKER_00 18:43

Atlanta, Atlanta's that good of you. You think no, I think it's gonna be a good, I think it's gonna go six or seven. I want the Knicks shoe. Who's winning? Who do you think is winning? The Knicks, but I but it's gonna be go six or seven, though. You think a gentleman sweet? You said gentlemen sweet. No, I I asked you guys what he never gave an answer. That nigga did.

SPEAKER_02 19:01

That nigga don't know where he is right now. Nigga, he forgot to say his name in the beginning.

SPEAKER_01 19:06

Look, man, Pluto. But nah, I I said that it was gonna they actually who I said the Knicks need to win this. Like, if they do not win this series, they breaking this shit up.

SPEAKER_00 19:18

You think the Knicks gonna win in a gentleman's sweep? Of course it's not gonna be a sweep.

SPEAKER_02 19:22

I don't think they're gonna sweep. So, like one game? You know what? I can see Atlanta winning the first game and the Knicks going on the run. I really could see that. You never know what the fuck the Knicks gonna play.

SPEAKER_01 19:34

I don't really know what to expect from uh Atlanta, unless Kuzma have like a fucking Jordan. What's not Kuzma? Johnson. What's his name? Uh Kaminga. Kaminga.

SPEAKER_02 19:45

That motherfuck. Fuck. You talking about Johnson. You're not hating him. You naming, you're not even naming an all-star. You coming off and you're talking about a nigga coming off a bench. He said, it depends on how Kaminga's doing. What about the the All-Star motherfucker?

SPEAKER_01 19:57

This is supposed to be his breakout team, you know.

SPEAKER_02 20:01

How's it been going for him?

SPEAKER_01 20:02

Not that great, but I'm saying he gets his real playoff shot. You know, Johnson NBA champion.

SPEAKER_02 20:07

Johnson needs to kill for Atlanta the Atlanta the wins.

SPEAKER_01 20:11

He got him for his NBA champion experience.

SPEAKER_02 20:14

Him and uh SGA cousin, what's it, Nichols? Well, Alexander Nickel. Those two motherfuckers.

SPEAKER_00 20:19

He got a little gun.

SPEAKER_02 20:20

Those two motherfuckers got to kill because they leading the pack.

SPEAKER_00 20:23

But for the Knicks on that, that's why I'm saying I don't believe in the Knicks too much to win a championship because of Catholics.

SPEAKER_02 20:29

I don't think they win.

SPEAKER_00 20:30

Cat so fucking, and they think I'm a light-skinned hater, but he just south did them all, fuck it over there.

SPEAKER_01 20:36

Yeah, you're pussy. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, something wrong with that nigga, man.

SPEAKER_02 20:39

What's your name fucking them up too? Boston until Boston loses. Boston all the way. Boston looks good.

SPEAKER_00 20:45

I got Senate. I'm telling you, my fine of the. No, I'm talking about for the East. East is Boston too. I got Boston too.

SPEAKER_01 20:51

So who y'all got for the West?

SPEAKER_00 20:52

I got the motherfucking Wimby, nigga. I've been in San Antonio since the beginning of the year. Yeah, I want San Antonio. Since I went to the fucking game against the Bulls, nigga, this nigga's amazing.

SPEAKER_02 21:02

I really don't want San Antonio to go because I'm not excited about San Antonio. What? The way they play? If I would love for a team to go, I love watching the Clippers. I love watching them. And I'm a big Lakers fan. I just like watching the Clippers basketball. That just does me being. Do I think they're gonna make it? Probably not. But I would love to see them go because I like how they play. I like Kawhi being getting the fuck down too. He do.

SPEAKER_00 21:30

I like Garland though. Garland hooping up.

SPEAKER_02 21:32

Yeah, and you had Matarin.

SPEAKER_00 21:33

I got Garland on my parlay getting uh 50 to me.

SPEAKER_02 21:35

Coming off the bench.

SPEAKER_00 21:36

Yeah, I don't get 50 to Spurs to win my little.

SPEAKER_02 21:39

Spurs in the Thunder play great basketball, but they're born as fuck to me.

SPEAKER_01 21:43

I don't think so, man. They're born as fuck to me. I don't think so, especially head-to-head playing for like motherfuckers. The Western Conference finals.

SPEAKER_02 21:50

Yeah, always get shit talked about about the way he fucking plays. You play Castle game, though? Castle is defensive game.

SPEAKER_00 21:55

Do you like this game? I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 21:57

It's a good game. I'm not excited about it. He's a good fucking player. I'm just talking about excitement. I'm not excited.

SPEAKER_00 22:04

So you want to see the Hornets then. Them niggas exciting as fuck. I would love it because at the end of the day.

SPEAKER_02 22:11

I want some exciting, some exciting ass basketball. I hate Boston. That's the regular season you want to see, nigga. I hate Boston, but I'm like, Boston better go. Yeah. I want to see Taylor McBrown get the fuck down.

SPEAKER_00 22:21

The playoffs are gonna be more intense, though. It's gonna be like some 90 shit, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01 22:25

I don't know about those 90 shit. That's like wishful thinking, basically.

SPEAKER_00 22:29

Nah, they they play better, the refs call a little bit hard. That game when it's overtime, too.

SPEAKER_02 22:34

Fuck. Hornets up by three with three minutes left. Who shot the three? Look. We ain't we don't fucking. We don't want to wanna show, motherfucker.

SPEAKER_01 22:45

Fuck your parlay. Okay. Speaking of uh legends playing in the playoffs, this is the first playoffs. Oh well, the first time they met since the championship in 2018. Kevin Durant, LeBron James, does this series have any significance?

SPEAKER_02 23:00

No, the fuck it doesn't. There's two motherfuckers trying to get mad. One in KD is the leading fucking scorer on his team. He is the guy. On the Lakers is Luca and AR. It is what it is. I'm not making it up. That's one and two right now.

SPEAKER_00 23:20

Hold on, nigga. You know LeBron going uh zero dark 30 now, alright?

unknown 23:26

Fuck all right.

SPEAKER_02 23:28

The man's 41. Not saying he's not gonna play well, but it's not his job for it to be the him and Kevin Durant show. Hey man. It's not his job. The motherfucker did his time. He's supposed to be being he's he's being carried down. And that's fine.

SPEAKER_01 23:42

That is fine. You don't think like seeing your old competitor and and like that might rile you up to like, nah, man, I can't have this nigga be busting up. You think Luca giving this motherfucker the ball? Like, get the fuck out of my face.

SPEAKER_00 23:53

No, Luca's been making them for the uh regular season. Go ahead, your old ass in that corner, boss. Set this screen.

SPEAKER_02 23:58

You acting like he playing with some some rookie motherfucker. He's playing with arguably the guy to me that should have been MV, that should be MVP. That motherfucker Luca, man.

SPEAKER_01 24:06

Brian's gonna keep feeding it to him.

SPEAKER_00 24:08

Luca over Joker?

SPEAKER_02 24:10

Yeah, Luca been. I'm always gonna be a good one.

SPEAKER_00 24:11

Joker leads the leader and stuff.

SPEAKER_02 24:13

I'm always gonna go for the fucking guard that's doing everything. It's easy to be fucking seven foot tall and do shit. But when you 6'7, you gotta carry a whole fucking team? Shit. Hoochie mama, guard.

SPEAKER_00 24:24

He ain't gonna play no defense.

SPEAKER_02 24:25

Vanderbilt, he ain't gotta play no fucking defense. It's two sides of the basketball. He ain't gotta play no fucking defense. He is the offense. He gotta average damn near 40. He got an average damn near 40.

SPEAKER_01 24:37

I think this is gonna be AR's breakouts, you know, series. He's gonna actually get some. He's gonna actually get some bucks.

SPEAKER_02 24:43

Shit. What the fuck? He's not playing? No. If he plays some defense, that's gonna cut his point percentage. AR's hurt? Yeah. Oh my god. What the fuck? They're about to lose then. Right. Hey, if Stephen A said they ain't making it out, they ain't making it to May. That's what Stephen A said.

SPEAKER_00 25:00

Houston is the favorite. Only problem with the Lakers is that uh AR, they might come back like if it's a game six or seven, but LeBron.

SPEAKER_02 25:08

Luca is up, it's up. They don't know if he's gonna play.

SPEAKER_00 25:11

I'm telling you, LeBron's gonna average like 30 points, 30, 12, 6, 7 rebounds, something like that. But they still gonna lose, though.

SPEAKER_02 25:18

I don't think LeBron's gonna average that.

SPEAKER_00 25:20

It's not, they're not playing every other game. They playing fucking Saturday, then Tuesday.

SPEAKER_02 25:25

I don't think he's gonna average that for the fucking thing.

SPEAKER_00 25:28

He's gonna have some average.

SPEAKER_02 25:30

He's gonna get some buckets. But they're gonna throw one of them young boys on his ass. Beat him up. Uh.

SPEAKER_01 25:39

Hit him. They got plenty of young, you know, studs to get out of them, you know. Oh, okay. There's no fair factor when it comes down.

SPEAKER_00 25:45

This is what I want to see. I want to see one game. I just want one game. Well, it's an old flashback like Golden State Cleveland era, them just going bucket for bucket against each other.

SPEAKER_02 25:56

That's what I'm saying, man. We wanna see that. We wanna see a little nostalgia. You know what you're gonna see? You're gonna see a lot of Amon Thompson saying, get the fuck out of my way. I'm getting buckets. Same thing for Zagoon. He got a problem passing the ball anyways. KD does easy money. He's the first motherfucker other than Michael. His nickname just precedes him. Easy money sniper. Just get easy buckets.

SPEAKER_00 26:18

Who's LeBron gonna stick, though? That's the only play on the.

SPEAKER_02 26:20

LeBron's.

SPEAKER_00 26:21

Because he's gonna play, he's gonna give all his uh energy to offense like Luca. But who's he gonna play on defense? Changu? No.

SPEAKER_02 26:28

Nah. Reed Shepard? Jabari.

SPEAKER_00 26:32

Ooh, yeah. But Jabari getting fucking.

SPEAKER_02 26:35

Jabari lost my respect after he got his ass bust after telling that motherfucker, you played against my dad. Shut the fuck up. Yes, guy.

SPEAKER_01 26:44

Hey man. A little off subject one. So, you know, you have like NBA players and and their sons. Like, who you think in like in the history of the game, like, not saying like the this LeBron Bronny shit, because that's that shit's weird. But like, like NBA players and their sons, who you think was like the best NBA player's son, you know what I'm saying, ever. That's a tough one.

SPEAKER_00 27:11

Off the top of my head, I go, Jerry Jackson.

SPEAKER_01 27:15

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 27:16

That's off the top of my head. Let me think about it, but off the top of my head, though.

SPEAKER_02 27:19

Yeah, because you got a lot. Yeah, Austin did decent.

SPEAKER_00 27:23

Austin Rivers. That's why they be like, that's why niggas be like, yeah, he's trolling, cuz.

SPEAKER_01 27:29

I'm gonna troll. Hey, you watched that high school myths tape a little too many times, bro. I'm about to look up. Hey, Mr. Duke man right here. Austin Rivers.

SPEAKER_00 27:39

I'm telling Jared Jackson on senior and junior.

SPEAKER_01 27:42

I would say, and this part not a fair one because one is extremely good, and one was like maybe okay. Hell no.

SPEAKER_02 27:51

Yeah, other than Steph, what's his name? Average eight points. What's the closest one? Jalen Rose, I would say.

SPEAKER_01 27:58

Not out of way, like he ain't fuck with his dad. Who you naming? Who you naming? Kobe Bryant and his dad.

SPEAKER_02 28:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 28:05

Bean, Bryant, and Kobe Bryant. That's the best one. That's number one.

SPEAKER_02 28:12

Except for Kobe. Except for Kobe.

SPEAKER_00 28:16

Mike and Ant.

SPEAKER_02 28:19

Shut your ass up.

SPEAKER_00 28:20

Mike and Ant. You know what Mike is daddy? He don't even know his daddy. His mama was no offense.

SPEAKER_01 28:27

Your aunt don't know half his kids. You wanna be real? They niggas put that bread up.

SPEAKER_02 28:32

He repeating the cycle. That nigga just put that bread up. King Mars son wasn't shit. K Mar wasn't really shit.

SPEAKER_00 28:42

You better watch your mom, nigga. You're gonna be defender. Gilbert Arena shit. Good. Clip of your ass.

SPEAKER_02 28:53

You know somebody's watching. He won't want to see your ass.

SPEAKER_01 28:57

Shout out, shout out the uh the mark is uh Jordan. You didn't make the league, but you you was better than Bronny, bro.

SPEAKER_02 29:02

Oh, that motherfucker's averaging like what 13, 14.

SPEAKER_01 29:04

You actually won the state championships, but Bronny didn't do. But you know what I'm saying. I don't think you smart. He didn't go to NBA, you went to go get money. Pippin's son's good. He's good. You know. We just naming motherfucking kids at this point.

SPEAKER_02 29:19

Like I said, Kobe Bryant's number one. Yeah, I think so. Number two might be fucking Jalen Rose.

SPEAKER_00 29:25

Do y'all think Stefan Dale? No.

SPEAKER_02 29:30

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Stephen Dale, yeah. Ward Elbert. Look. Lim, you just got a hatred for the motherfucker.

SPEAKER_01 29:35

Dale Curry, the first nigga get retired for nothing to fucking Hall of Fame out. Like, what the who gives a fuck about it? But he said the best father-son combo.

SPEAKER_02 29:43

Okay. Fucking Kobe, Kobe's dad wasn't. She didn't get past Kendall Gill, nigga. Who kills in the bitch house? Who was better? Kobe's dad or uh fucking or Curry. Or I mean or uh Dale Curry. Dale fucking Curry.

SPEAKER_01 29:56

Right.

SPEAKER_02 29:57

So hey, there you go.

SPEAKER_01 29:59

One well, once, I guess.

SPEAKER_02 30:01

One got his jersey retied, the other one, just known for Kobe Bryant.

SPEAKER_01 30:04

And Lil Pippin, step your game up so we can change this conversation.

SPEAKER_00 30:13

Score another bass, man. I go see your mama, nigga.

SPEAKER_01 30:17

Shout out to Marcus on that.

SPEAKER_02 30:20

We'll see what Dylan Harper and his brother do in the next few years. I'm, you know. Shit, Ron was an all-star. The berries. The berries. Yeah. Rick. No, Brent Berry, dunk contest winner. Yeah, yeah. Yep. They both got chips. Both signs.

SPEAKER_01 30:41

Both signs, right? So that leads us to our other conversation. What's the greatest NBA team that never won a championship since we're in the playoff mood and disappointment mode?

SPEAKER_02 30:55

To me, that's easy one. Most people are gonna look further back, 2000 Blazers and shit like that. But in all actuality, it's the fucking 2019 go to say Warriors. Yep.

SPEAKER_01 31:04

Hands down, bro. Ain't nobody. Man, fuck them niggas. They couldn't win. They couldn't win, that's their fault. Bunch of injuries. Hey, man, you can say that about Cleveland when they first played him, you know, because Kyrie Irving went down and shit. Cleveland could have won that first series.

SPEAKER_02 31:21

They should have won the first one, but that Warriors team with KD was way better than because they still beating the shit out of him. They were beating the shit out that Cleveland team.

SPEAKER_01 31:30

Twice.

SPEAKER_02 31:30

They beat the shit out of that Cleveland team. You know what? Not my opinion, they really beat the shit out of him.

SPEAKER_01 31:36

You know what? I'm gonna go with that uh with that fucking Sacramento, Sacramental team that played the Lakers. Because you know, you know the They got cheated. They got cheated, you know what I'm saying? Kobe Bryant, elbow fucking Mike Bibby nose busted wide open, they called foul on Mike Bibby.

SPEAKER_02 31:53

That's how social media get y'all motherfuckers. You know there was a thing called Hack Shaq. Shaq just got his ass beat damn near every play. Shaq. And we stay on the elbow to the fucking face. Shaq got his ass beat. Shaq should have been at the fucking free throw line every damn time he touched the ball. The whole team should have been fouled out. But they also.

SPEAKER_01 32:09

But we stick with that elbow. But we also had a nigga that was covering the spread, too. So, you know, that might have helped a little bit, you know.

SPEAKER_02 32:15

Yeah, keep it close. We ain't calling that foul, Shaq. Fuck that.

SPEAKER_00 32:19

That's team is the Jailblazers, though.

SPEAKER_01 32:22

Hell yeah, Jailblazers. That's another team that got cheated on some on some foul shit that that was.

SPEAKER_02 32:27

And they were beating this shit. Go back and watch these series. The thing is, we all remember Shaq didn't get even 50% of his fucking calls. It was a big they had a thing. Hacker Shaq. They literally beat the shit out of him. They got played.

SPEAKER_00 32:42

The same thing with Shay, though, with the same thing as you can't call a fucking foul every possession. Back then.

SPEAKER_02 32:47

Exactly. But this, but they actually got a motherfucker on the team just to get five fouls on him. I agree. Because Zoe's a big nigga on the bench that get money. That gets fucked. Two, three million just to beat the shit.

SPEAKER_01 32:59

Jack used to keep some uh keep some motherfucking garbage ass senators employed. This they was just like, motherfucker. Exactly. Tom McCullough, shout out to Tom McCullough, man. Who was the dude from New York, the money pushed? Dudley. Dudley. Dougley, yeah, Dougley, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 33:13

That motherfucker threw that ball at his ass. Fuck that.

SPEAKER_01 33:15

Fuck that shit, man.

SPEAKER_02 33:16

Ronnie Cycley got a few more years in the league because of him. Thanks to Irving Johnson. That's to get fouls. But yeah, that's why I always look back at that shit. Me being a Lakers fan, I'm gonna sit there and analyze that shit. We all know Shaq used to get his ass beat.

SPEAKER_00 33:28

But see, you being biased though, right there. No, I'm just calling it what it is. Shaq used to get his ass beat every time. The jailblazers had a fucking good team.

SPEAKER_02 33:35

But they sat there and beat the shit out of Shaq, too.

SPEAKER_00 33:37

They had Jermaine O'Neill come off the fucking.

SPEAKER_02 33:39

No, but Jermaine O'Neill didn't even fucking play. Right. They didn't fucking play.

SPEAKER_00 33:43

Zach Randolph.

SPEAKER_02 33:44

But the time began. Fucking will produce. But what's the first thing? What's the first thing you said? Steve Smith, Scottie Pippa. But what's the first thing you said? Damon Steinemaier? You said with some bogus foul call, right? Yeah. You said with some bogus foul call, they lost, right? Yeah. But Shaq got his ass beat damn near the whole game.

SPEAKER_00 33:59

And Pippa couldn't guard Gog at the time, no either.

SPEAKER_01 34:02

Bro, even if he's getting fouled every time, first thing it'd be a delayed game every time this nigga fucking shoot. Like, he wouldn't have made a fucking difference if they call him foul. If anything, that helped fucking these fucking uh the Lakers. Because if Shaq was getting fouled every time.

SPEAKER_02 34:18

No, the fucking because he didn't get the call all the time.

SPEAKER_01 34:20

The motherfucker would not be hitting free throws. They'd be they wouldn't want to free though.

SPEAKER_02 34:23

It doesn't matter if he hit the free throws. This motherfuckers are getting fouled. That nigga Brian Gray got the shakes, nigga.

SPEAKER_00 34:31

That shit ain't funny.

SPEAKER_02 34:32

But it's real. Yo.

SPEAKER_01 34:35

Shaq bowed his ass. That nigga started shaking. Hey, who was the uh the Kobe stopper? Who was the fuck that nigga was Patterson? The pussy taker, whatever the fuck that nigga was.

SPEAKER_02 34:46

Hey, that's what the fuck he got in trouble for. Damn. Damn. Yeah, hey, that's what he got in trouble for. Damn, Gucci man. What the fuck is he in trouble? If I know, it's not like I was there in the room.

SPEAKER_00 34:59

I'm just saying, Gucci.

SPEAKER_02 35:01

Damn, wow. I'm sorry I look at Wikipedia niggas.

SPEAKER_01 35:05

Public knowledge, motherfucker. It was a fact. But yeah, man, that I don't know. I think that was like the closest team to actually.

SPEAKER_00 35:17

Third is Sacramento. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 35:19

Second to me is actually the what is it? The 04 Lakers.

unknown 35:25

God damn it.

SPEAKER_00 35:26

I was on. Yeah, Lakers fan, though. So you put the heat up there. We lost to Dallas.

SPEAKER_02 35:31

No, no, no, no, no. We're talking about the big those teams were picked to win the fucking championship. See, put it like this. Sacramento wasn't picked to win the fucking championship. But we're talking about watching the actual game. Dallas beat the still on the fucking games. But the Blazers wasn't picked up. Blazers wasn't picked to win the fucking championship. And why he couldn't get it done? But Golden State and the Lakers were picked to win the fucking championship. That that Cleveland, I mean that Miami team was picked to win the fucking championship.

SPEAKER_01 36:00

It is the eye test. Look who's on the fucking side.

SPEAKER_00 36:02

Put injury aside. Take out the Lakers 04 and take out Golden State. Who's number one then? Because I believe Lakers would have won if Carl Ballone didn't get injured and want to fuck Kobe's wife.

SPEAKER_02 36:12

You know what I'm saying? That's true.

SPEAKER_00 36:14

So without injuries, who is?

SPEAKER_01 36:17

Without injuries. Oh, by the way, Kobe took pussy in that year's.

SPEAKER_00 36:20

Hold on, Kobe.

SPEAKER_01 36:22

Allegedly he didn't take that back.

SPEAKER_00 36:24

He didn't take that.

SPEAKER_01 36:25

He was motherfucking ass.

SPEAKER_02 36:26

In the words. Told y'all motherfuckers. Kobe didn't take that pussy. The back dope. You know what I'm saying? Without injuries, Blazers. Okay. Blazers. Yeah, without fucking injuries. Gotta be the Blazers.

SPEAKER_00 36:40

I'm sorry for the old people too. We don't know about 84 Celtics or the 76 fucking Philadelphia 76.

SPEAKER_02 36:50

You can say the Boston, you can say the Pistons when Isaiah fucked it up. Oh, when he played on his ankle? No, when the motherfucker threw the inbounds passing. Oh, went to the Boston?

SPEAKER_01 36:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 36:59

No, he just got the yeeps, motherfucker. And fuck that up. You could actually say the San Antonio Spurs in 2014. Motherfuckers didn't hit no free throws. Fucked it up. That is nah. No motherfuckers missed three free throws. And then Ray Allen came and smacked that bitch. They would have hit the free throws, game over with.

SPEAKER_00 37:16

But now Tim Duncan should have been in the game too, though. So yeah, you could put them up there. But yeah. Jailbirds is number one, though. And watch that dock on Netflix.

SPEAKER_02 37:27

But yeah, if I'm picking the two teams, I'm picking Golden State and I'm picking that 04 Legacy team. Because they were picked to win the whole fucking year. Both teams. They made dream teams. Kobe win a game without fucking shooting it because people say he shot too much. Eagle fucked that whole thing up big time.

SPEAKER_00 37:44

And that's some asshole shit though, nigga. And that's my boy. You know I'm a Kobe fan, nigga. That boy said, I'm not. Okay, you motherfuckers talking all this shit. You shoot this, nigga. You shoot fucking Smush Parker. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01 37:58

That was a stacked fucking team. That's crazy to do that shit in the finals, though. Game seven. If any time to have your period, it's in the finals.

SPEAKER_02 38:07

It was the finals. No, it was Western Conference finals. No, it was the finals.

SPEAKER_01 38:10

They gave Detroit a ring. We talking about the uh that championship. He did it twice then. Yeah, he did it with Spoon Park. So I know when you talk about that shit. He did that shit a couple times.

SPEAKER_00 38:20

Phoenix, too.

SPEAKER_02 38:21

And Kobe's only when that won a game for the Lakers against Detroit.

SPEAKER_01 38:25

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_02 38:26

Told you motherfuckers you need me. Trade that fat fuck.

SPEAKER_01 38:29

So it's been a lot of like talk on by these other like podcasts about like they kind of getting their history messed up. So Patrick was what Patrick Beverly was talking about between Who was it? Dwayne Wade against uh James Harden. He said he said James Harden was a better shooting guard throughout the years or something like that.

SPEAKER_02 38:51

But man, I'm gonna be like my guy MJ. Can I get a close up? Can I get a close up? For you motherfuckers that actually think James Harden is better than Dwayne Wade, that's some real smoking crack shit. At the end of the fucking day, we're talking about a guy that willed his team to a championship. Not only will this team to a championship, the motherfucker that's arguably in the running for fucking GOAT said, I gotta go play with this motherfucker. Not anybody else. I gotta go play with this motherfucker. The win rings.

SPEAKER_01 39:24

I mean, the play, the play, the play devil's advocate, right? James Harden did change the game too with his three-point shooting, though. He was elite shooting guard. I don't think he's better than Wayne Wayne.

SPEAKER_02 39:35

James Harden plays a lot of the fucking point guard, too. That's why we're gonna go to the game's been playing for the last three years. We don't forget longer than that. We we tend to forget that shit.

SPEAKER_01 39:46

I I wouldn't have to play. He played shooting guard longer than he played fucking point guard.

SPEAKER_02 39:50

I'm not saying he sucks. He's a great, he's top five. But if he's the if he's better than the Wayne Wade, Payne Manning is better than fucking Tom Brady. If you want to go by the fucking stats. That means he's better than fucking Tom Brady. And I'm a Payne Manning fan. I will say fuck no Tom Brady's better. Because he willed his teams the fucking championship after year after year after year.

SPEAKER_00 40:15

I'm not a James Harden fan, though. That step back is a fucking travel defense.

SPEAKER_02 40:19

Fuck the tech, man. It's the arm thing. Gotta get the arm. The rules are different. The rules of different better player. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 40:27

You know what I'm saying? All-around player. James Harden played defense. I know y'all don't like defense and shit. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 40:34

Shit.

SPEAKER_00 40:36

Alright, see. D. Wade was just an all-around better player, though. You know what I'm saying? He was. And the thing is, though, they probably would have won that uh ring against Dallas if D-Way would have took over. He didn't want to because of LeBron.

SPEAKER_02 40:47

When April hits, one motherfucker steps up, the other one fumbles. Hands down.

SPEAKER_00 40:53

Yeah, that was my next point, Tiger.

SPEAKER_02 40:55

Don't put no motherfucker that fumbles in the playoffs over a motherfucker that killed.

SPEAKER_00 40:59

Tiger interrupted.

SPEAKER_02 41:00

He was taking too long, motherfucker.

SPEAKER_00 41:03

Regular season, you're gonna want harder though. But in the playoffs, you're gonna want, and that's the time that count that you want D. Wade.

SPEAKER_02 41:09

I'm taking fucking D. Wade. Dwayne, I'm taking D. Wade in the season two. He gets buckets. With a worse fucking team before LeBron and them came? Shit. Shit.

SPEAKER_01 41:20

Dwayne Wade must have got Pastor Beverly cut during uh the first season at Miami or some shit.

SPEAKER_02 41:25

He did fuck up Shire's eye for trying to try out for Miami.

SPEAKER_01 41:28

Oh, that was yeah, that shit crazy. He fucked his whole fucked the whole trajectory of his fucking life. That's fucked up.

SPEAKER_02 41:37

You talking about I'm gonna have a six, six-point guard to run the ball. You fuck his eye up? Man, fuck that.

SPEAKER_01 41:44

Yeah, it's crazy. That shit crazy. But yeah, so speaking of rules and how the game changed, so so because the game has been changing and evolution of the game where you know we shoot more threes now. DeMar Rhodes is about to pass Shaq and won the all-time scoreless, right? Do you do we still count these stats? Are they more like diluted now because of how the game is played now? Can we really compare like like stats to like saying a player is better than another player?

SPEAKER_02 42:19

Before you get into that, brother. Mike, you lost, motherfucker. Fuck! Hornets one by one in overtime.

SPEAKER_00 42:25

I'm sorry, hit him, man. I know that was loud.

SPEAKER_02 42:27

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 42:28

Back to back to what the man with no name saying. Yeah, I'm the man of many names. But yeah, you think like stats, these stats, these current stats that the NBA has, you think that compared to like how the game was played back then, I know they can say, well, back then they didn't have blah blah blah and blah blah blah, but you think like, is it really fair to like because some kid in 10 years is gonna think DeMar Rosen was a better player than Shaquille Neil because he had more threes than him?

SPEAKER_02 43:01

Well, it it is I'm not gonna say they don't fucking matter. It's just it's a different game nowadays. Everybody's just shooting, shooting, shooting, shooting, shooting. And they don't take anything from DeMar to Rosen because he kills it with the mid-range. He's been in the league for a very long fucking time. He's somewhere, what, he gotta be like 35 or something like that. At this time, Shaq was on his decline. The thing about Shaq, because we talked about this the other the other day, and I had to go back and look at it. Shaq started declining to that 14, 15 point game in his 30s. DeMarta Rosen got a jump shot. And if you go to the hole, you're gonna get fouled. It's just gonna work like that. And he's not shooting threes all day. He shoots high efficient shots. He shoots mid-range fucking shots. Yeah, but we ain't we ain't gonna run some. We ain't never gonna do that.

SPEAKER_00 43:47

You ain't answered the question.

SPEAKER_02 43:48

No, it it it's when it comes to DeMarta Rosen. But stats in general, though, now though. Stats in general, yeah, because they run up the scores. If you're talking about scoring stats, yeah, because they run up the fucking score.

SPEAKER_00 43:59

No, no, we're talking about stats in general. Rebounds, assists, fucking turnovers, steals.

SPEAKER_02 44:03

Well, rebounds always been rebounds. But for me, it everything's okay except for the fucking scoring. Because now everybody's just chucking up fucking threes. Chucking it up, chucking up, chucking it up, chucking it.

SPEAKER_01 44:17

It's just the reality of it, like DeMar DeRozan, we're not gonna retire. We're not gonna retire in Jersey. He's not even a top 75 player. Like, we're not gonna top 150. He's not even that. So, but he's but he's got a higher scoring average. Than Shaquille O'Neal in the scoring list. Like, at some point we gotta be like, yo, we gotta call bullshit.

SPEAKER_00 44:39

KD passed Mike, though, recently.

SPEAKER_01 44:42

Hey, man, but the KD is an assassin. I'm not going front on KD, man.

SPEAKER_00 44:47

So you think KD had better story than Mike?

SPEAKER_01 44:49

Better scoring than Mike? I don't think he's a better scorer than Mike, but I don't think I think if he was in Mike's era, he'd be scoring a six, they'll still be scoring six feet.

SPEAKER_02 44:59

What do you mean, like better score than Mike? Better more efficient?

SPEAKER_01 45:03

Like technical score?

SPEAKER_02 45:04

Efficiency, yeah, he's seven feet fucking tall.

SPEAKER_00 45:07

That's what I was trying to get a yeah for. He's more efficient. All around.

SPEAKER_02 45:11

One six six. The other motherfucker is seven feet.

SPEAKER_00 45:14

Efficient, yes. But overall, though, is he a better scorer than Mike?

SPEAKER_02 45:17

No, Mike got more in his bag. Because Mike needs to have more in his bag. He's 6'6. KD, I can shoot over this motherfucker. Get the screen, I can shoot over the next person. That big motherfucker and Joker can't even jump higher than me. I got it. Pop, pop, pop. They put the big man on me, I can take him off the fucking dribble. It's easy because he's seven feet fucking tall. Mike, Mike, Kobe, them real 6'6 stars, gotta work for that shit like no other. What's KD's nickname? Easy sniper. Easy money sniper. The game word easy. Easy. Michael Jordan aired Jordan because he had to jump over these motherfuckers. He got to get around.

SPEAKER_01 45:53

He's something like he is like a fucking cheat code, man. Yeah. He's something that I don't see nobody ever stopping him in no error. That's why I put him like in like kind of, I know people was kind of saying I was blasphemous for it, but I put him in like in my top ten, top five.

SPEAKER_02 46:08

He's not in my Mount Rushmore players all the time, you know? Yeah, he's not on my Mount Rushmore, but he's one of my top five players. Mount Rushmore's only four, so he's number five to me. Because you just can't stop the motherfucker. Just can't stop him. Yeah, that's facts.

SPEAKER_00 46:19

Favorite player, but not all around best player, though, right? What do you mean? You think KD's a top five player players?

SPEAKER_02 46:25

He's one of your favorite player for me. Yeah, he's one of my favorite players. Okay, okay. He's right outside my Mount Rushmore. Favorite players, but not overall. He could be there. That motherfucker's a killer.

SPEAKER_00 46:36

You think KD's the top five player all around?

SPEAKER_02 46:39

What do you mean, all around? You think KD's around? You talking about like all time, all-time type player. You're talking about like defense, everything?

SPEAKER_00 46:46

No, nigga. I'm finna be specific with my question. Yeah, this one. Do you believe KD's one of the top five greatest players ever to touch a basketball? To me, he's he is your favorite, right? He's not my favorite.

SPEAKER_02 46:59

He's one of my favorite. He's down the list. He's actually my fourth best player, but he's not on my Mount Rushboard.

SPEAKER_00 47:07

You're not answering the fucking question. I'm telling you, he's my Is he number five? Is he top five or not?

SPEAKER_02 47:12

No, that's like me saying, I was saying in the back of the old podcast, Kobe's my favorite player, but Jordan's the fucking GOAT. I'm saying he's my guy. Lami.

SPEAKER_01 47:22

He's my guy. I think he will dominate any area.

SPEAKER_00 47:27

Is he a top five player? Yes or no, nigga?

SPEAKER_01 47:29

Of all time? Yeah, I don't think he's up for he's a top ten player of all time.

SPEAKER_02 47:33

Yeah, it's hard to top five is just a lot of motherfuckers, but for me, he's in my top five. But if I got a fucking gun in my head and say name top five players, he ain't gonna be on that team. Yeah. Like I said with Kobe. Kobe's my favorite player, Jordan DeGoat. There's a difference.

SPEAKER_01 47:50

And that's why I kind of like with the stats of like, you know, LeBron leads so many stabs, all-time scores. And he just like, he's a guy that just started from high school.

SPEAKER_00 47:59

Yeah. He's still in the game, they up by 20, nigga.

SPEAKER_02 48:02

Gotta get this. Man, when he almost smacked the shit out on the reads to taking that rebound from bitch.

SPEAKER_01 48:09

Hey, man. You remember when they was up with like when he's playing in the bubble, they was up like 20. He was still in the game because he wanted to score more points than uh AD.

SPEAKER_02 48:17

Mm-hmm. They made AD switch off, man. Take a backseat and guard uh Jimmy Butler. Yeah. AP Creep. I'll tell you this. Fuck you. Because you always said LeBron was the guy on that team. Nah. They ain't winning shit without AD. And AD said that shit don't count, by the way.

SPEAKER_00 48:31

AD should have got fucking uh probably MVP, but that uh COVID championship don't count.

SPEAKER_01 48:36

But even AD said that shit don't. I don't think so, though. AD said it don't fucking count.

SPEAKER_02 48:41

I don't think so. Who the fuck? Man, you're talking about the motherfucker that was on the team. Go ahead and tell me about the guy. You about to tell me somebody.

SPEAKER_00 48:46

So you think the COVID championship count?

SPEAKER_01 48:49

I think that was the hardest championship to look. Everybody's everybody's fresh, bro. All we doing is going playing.

SPEAKER_02 48:59

Lim, it's it's actually the easiest because you have nobody in the crowd getting on your fucking nerves.

SPEAKER_00 49:03

You can see on TV screen. There's no and you see LeBron every game. Get him out.

SPEAKER_02 49:09

Get the game. Davis came out and said it wasn't fucking hard, basically. What's his name? What's White Boy? Black uh White Mamba. He when he won with OKC, I finally won a real championship. Who the fuck says that when they won a championship? I finally won a real championship. These are people that won and they saying that shit.

SPEAKER_01 49:28

I don't know. It's to me, it would be harder because like, man, I don't have the home advantage like I'm at the garden or I'm at the fucking Lakers Stadium or you know.

SPEAKER_02 49:41

And calling you a bitch.

SPEAKER_01 49:43

Yeah. No, but it's an even flow. We all playing basically like this is big AU camp, big AC, ABC camp.

SPEAKER_02 49:50

That's the problem. And we're playing in. You're proving the point. You look at the people that used to play Boston. When LA used to go play Boston, motherfuckers have to run out that bitch. Because people about to whoop their ass. Like people are in your fucking face. So I think fucking up the law.

SPEAKER_01 50:03

I think it was harder because we on the evening floor.

SPEAKER_02 50:08

I don't give a fuck. I agree with the two motherfuckers that won a championship and said it wasn't the artist. Yeah. I gotta go with them. And you know who never really talks about it like that? Even Bravlin.

SPEAKER_00 50:19

But the thing about the Lakers, they hung that fucking banner, though. That's crazy. They hung that banner and the fucking uh some of that Fruit Bowl Cup banner?

SPEAKER_01 50:28

Yeah. Fruitball cup.

SPEAKER_02 50:31

Kobe Rowland. That don't mean shit. That means the the fucking, what is it don't mean shit. The COVID championship don't mean shit.

SPEAKER_01 50:39

Alright. Speaking of something that don't matter. The WNBA draft.

SPEAKER_00 50:45

It don't matter.

SPEAKER_01 50:46

I'll play it, I'll play it. WNBA draft is important. We got the next league of women that's aspiring the future generation. And we I think it's gonna actually be a good season this year. I'm actually excited if I'm talking shit. I'm gonna bring it to my man's that's you know the WNBA expert to kind of break down like the draft a little bit. So the first pick was what? What was the name?

SPEAKER_02 51:10

You're talking to me, you're talking to Mike.

SPEAKER_01 51:12

I'm talking to you. AZ FUD. AZ FUD.

SPEAKER_00 51:16

So what do you think about that as far as like Oh, I guess anytime you get your team to draft your girl, the backcourt is a bunch of let me shut up.

SPEAKER_02 51:27

The backcourt are all women that are lesbians. The league is lesbians. You don't see that a lot. By the way, Aguma K, I mean, whatever her name, Arika, no, it's not Enrique. What's the fuck? Oguma Wale, her fucking wife is fine as hell, too. Shit. She a one, she MVP right there. Just for that. Same thing for Paige. Well, she's been having an Ozzy AZ since fucking high school or some shit.

SPEAKER_01 51:55

Alright, we'll get to the who's the most fuckable in a minute. But like, okay, who you out of this whole draft, who you think is actually gonna make a difference? Olivia Miles. Minnesota's winning. Olivia Miles. I don't think they're gonna win a championship.

SPEAKER_02 52:09

What? Bet money. I think Olivia's gonna be. Minnesota won it all this next year. She went to Minnesota. I know Minnesota was. Oh, you I thought you were talking to me, yeah. Oh, you're talking about me, bet money? Nafisa got injured. That's the only thing slowed them down.

SPEAKER_01 52:20

You think Washington got a squad? They basically got everybody from UCLA. They re-signed some of their top players. That's nice. Washington could be the team that they ain't on shit.

SPEAKER_02 52:30

That Minnesota looking nice. Yeah, Minnesota's gonna win it all. Yeah, Minnesota's looking fucking nice.

SPEAKER_00 52:34

But I got uh the the my upset to Minnesota is gonna be Indiana. Y'all know I love that motherfucking Raven, boy. You know what I'm saying? Raven. But I don't know how they chemistry gonna be, because remember Caitlin gave her the little shooting. Yeah, so how you feel about that?

SPEAKER_02 52:51

You think she's gonna have some type of like kind of animosity happens a little like if it is, that's a problem because that shit was in college. You in the big you in the league now, so make your money, try to win some championships. If that's your problem, they're gonna send your ass packing to it.

SPEAKER_00 53:04

No, they're gonna apologize for that. Kelsey Milcher on that bitch, Boston on that motherfucker, Sophie Cunning. Do you know what I'm saying? They got a good team, they got some good vets on there. They're gonna talk about it, though. They gotta talk about it.

SPEAKER_02 53:15

How you think that sky is gonna be? I think they did good picking up uh Man Jackson War ass. Or yeah, Heineken's sister.

SPEAKER_00 53:22

Hey, what my man say on TikTok uh respectfully, I'll take them all through the mattress. I'll take them all through the mattress.

SPEAKER_02 53:31

I mean, what's it Vasquez? His uh sister, dude from Ryan, his sister, she dice. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 53:39

But the sky got a good team. No, no.

SPEAKER_02 53:42

But they got a good starting five. We'll see what happens with the rest.

SPEAKER_01 53:44

I think they're gonna do some, I think they'll make some noise this year.

SPEAKER_00 53:47

Ticket parts are gonna go down there though. I mean, good.

SPEAKER_01 53:50

Because we was overpaying for we was overpaying for me browns. What's her name? Miss Miss Browns? Me Bounds. Me Browns. What we what we think about uh Flo J. Johnson. I probably said her name wrong again, but Flo J. Johnson, right? Do you think that she kind of dropped in the draft a little bit, or do you think I've been telling you, I I haven't cared for her play this year.

SPEAKER_02 54:14

Me neither. I played for a couple years. I think her name is bigger than her play.

SPEAKER_00 54:18

I'ma say like Bubba Doug. I think she's gonna be trash.

SPEAKER_01 54:21

Do you think there's like she kind of got drafted more so off of her celebrity a little bit, you know?

SPEAKER_02 54:26

No, I think she fit well at what? She got drafted, what, number 10 or something like that?

SPEAKER_01 54:29

She got drafted to the Golden State and got traded to Seattle.

SPEAKER_02 54:33

So Yeah, and Seattle got Seattle rebuilding too, though. Yeah, they got some big girls on that team, too. They got that girl that can dunk. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 54:40

I think it's gonna be some little highlights going on, little Gary Payton Sean Kemp thing going on. But they're not gonna be good enough to win yet.

SPEAKER_02 54:50

Yeah, the the West, the West is stacked for the for the WNBA. You still gotta go through the aces, too. Yeah, that's a fact. In New York, New York just picked up Satu Salaby. Gave her sister away in the expansion draft and picked up. That's a walk-in 19 points too.

SPEAKER_00 55:09

That's the one played in Washington or the one played in Phoenix.

SPEAKER_02 55:11

The one played in Phoenix. Okay. Yeah, they uh they picked up. So yeah, that's 19 points right there. 20.

SPEAKER_00 55:20

But they only reason New York didn't win last year because they was injury prone, though. They had a lot of injuries going on. Everybody got hurt.

SPEAKER_02 55:26

I just think Minnesota. Minnesota was the main thing.

SPEAKER_00 55:29

Nah, nigga Minnesota. I'm putting that shit in. Minnesota is gonna win the championship.

SPEAKER_02 55:33

I think Olivia Miles is one of the best players.

SPEAKER_00 55:37

They got them uh them them, what's them girls? They broke up them uh Snubs. They kept the one that was good though, Courtney Williams.

SPEAKER_02 55:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 55:45

She can ball.

SPEAKER_02 55:46

And I want to point out right now, number one pick next year. Hannah Dalgo. That's a motherfucking. Oh, but Juju? Yeah. I don't know about that. You haven't seen Juju play in a year, my nigga. She was right. Yeah, exactly. You haven't seen 20, 20.

SPEAKER_00 56:03

Out of sight, out of mind, 25 points, eight assists.

SPEAKER_02 56:06

I think she average seven.

SPEAKER_00 56:08

UCLA.

SPEAKER_02 56:09

Seven steals.

SPEAKER_00 56:10

I mean, USC winning the goddamn players.

SPEAKER_02 56:11

Oh no, USC is that they got the last, what, number one players? The last four. Since Juju got there, they got the number one player.

SPEAKER_00 56:18

USC is winning the damn championship.

SPEAKER_02 56:20

That's another thing about Juju. Juju got to share that ball like a motherfucker now.

SPEAKER_00 56:24

But that's gonna teach her, that's gonna help her game in the WNBA.

SPEAKER_02 56:27

I see them winning, but Hannah Adalgo. She look what she just did to her with her team. She just gets a lot of things.

SPEAKER_00 56:33

And the sky's so damn dumb. They traded away the draft picks to have a chance to get Juju or uh Hannah. Mm-hmm. Just dumb as he.

SPEAKER_01 56:43

I think they was they was they was kind of panicking with trading and Angel Reach. They were trying to at least get people to still come to the games. Because you know they got the WNBA All-Star this year, so they gotta have some type of name. Starless, you know, Skylar digs. They gotta have something representing in Chicago.

SPEAKER_02 57:00

I know Atlanta got a good ass player too. I keep on forgetting her name. Great. But she's great. She's good as fuck.

SPEAKER_01 57:08

So you think uh Angel Reese is gonna make a difference with a new team? Hell no. She's gonna be a good one. Or she's just gonna be in the, you know, playing a fucking role, nigga. The beautiful in the black on the Tyler Perry show or something like that. That's why she's in Atlanta right now.

SPEAKER_02 57:21

I think I think it's time for her to. If she gets a jump shot, that motherfucker is unstoppable. Angel Reese? Yeah, she gets a jump shot, it should be unstoppable. Because she already the rebound fucking queen. She gets a jump shot. And she's averaging 20 with what, 13 rebounds and shit?

SPEAKER_00 57:38

Fuck a jump shot. She can make a layup consist. God damn. I say this motherfucker get the rebound. Go coast to coast. Blow the layup, man. Get the rebound. Blow the miss. The rebound. Get the rebound. Blow it again, cuz. Spin around, turnover. Alright?

SPEAKER_01 57:57

This is the rebox, man. Don't blame it on the rebox.

SPEAKER_02 57:59

This is what I want to say about bringing up Hannah Adalgo. This shit to carry Notre Dame. 25 points. 5.6 steals. 5.5.

SPEAKER_00 58:09

Juju didn't play this shit, nigga.

SPEAKER_02 58:13

That doesn't change her stats. Juju didn't play this shit. That doesn't change her stats. Out of sight, out of mind. That doesn't change. She dominated.

SPEAKER_00 58:22

Who you think is going to get player of the year next year in the middle of the day.

SPEAKER_02 58:24

I think he's going to be handled. I think she got, I think she, I know because.

SPEAKER_00 58:28

Man, this nigga be smoked.

SPEAKER_02 58:29

I know because what is it? So you think those stats don't give you that? Did she win it this year? No, they gave it to they gave it to the number one player in college. Sarah Strong. They went undefeated.

SPEAKER_01 58:40

I think they're going to be able to do that. I think Juju's going to be able to make the adjustments, man. You know what I'm saying? They're going to give her the keys anyway.

SPEAKER_00 58:48

She gotta get a player of the year before she leaves college.

SPEAKER_02 58:51

I'm not saying Juju sucks. I'm saying clearly this girl is doing some magical shit. And I'm telling you, Juju's gonna get player of the year next year. Okay, they're gonna have a solid squad, man. Let it get Idi crooks.

SPEAKER_01 59:02

I think she's going to Notre Dame, right?

SPEAKER_02 59:03

That's that's who she's thinking about it. That's what Hannah plays for. She plays for Notre Dame.

SPEAKER_00 59:07

But I don't think she's going in because the Ivy uh the coach Ivy's son comments. We ain't gonna get into that though, man.

SPEAKER_02 59:14

Oh this nigga homeless now. But you want to know what the crazy thing is? They are some real religious motherfuckers on that Notre Dame team. That's why Olivia. So they say that's one of the reasons why Olivia Males loves her being gay. That's something to do with it. Because Hannah's really religious. Jaden Ivey got that shit from somewhere. His mama. Hey.

SPEAKER_00 59:35

Hey, he married that white lady, gonna leave him and shit, gonna put man.

SPEAKER_02 59:39

She said, fuck that.

SPEAKER_00 59:40

Snowflake ass. Listen to Dr. Umar, boss.

SPEAKER_02 59:44

But in his case, I think everybody would have left his ass. Black, white, Asian. He was high though. The motherfucker's still high. He's tweaking, bro. That man was Alabama preaching on the corner.

SPEAKER_00 59:55

Hey, I thought that was AI, cuz.

SPEAKER_02 59:57

Nah, that's him.

SPEAKER_00 59:58

That was him.

SPEAKER_02 59:59

That was him.

SPEAKER_00 59:59

I swear, that's why I said it, G. I thought that was AI Mike.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:03

Nah, that's him, bro. He threw when you got your beliefs, you got your beliefs. But when he got the snitching about Anthony Edwards, I said, Oh, I'm done with you, nigga. Yeah, man. You believe in what you believe in. You get the. Speaking of Gucci, I want to say this. Gucci has his time in prison. He ain't fucking no shit up. Fuck them little niggas. I'm calling the cops on their ass, too.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:23

He's a civilian now. Roderick Davis can call the police. Gucci man can't call the police.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:29

Because remember what Gucci was doing when niggas was robbing him. He got the he was able to have his pistol. Yeah, he's lucky shot ass nigga. But guess what? He was able to have his pistol. Gucci can have no pistol no more. Roger Davis a bitch.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:40

Well, Gucci, what'd Jesus say?

SPEAKER_02 1:00:44

He not allowed to have his pistol no more. He got his pistol. You're right, he's a civilian. Yeah. Them niggas did it. Is Bumbi a bit? Bumbi a bitch? Them niggas broke into his house. Called a cost on them niggas too.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:56

He but he blew them down first, though, before the pause was like. He shot him up before that.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:01

He was allowed to have a gun.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:05

Again, civilians can do what they want to do.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:06

Yeah. Yeah. Well, speaking of a civilian that's, you know, now, you know, overseas, trying to live his, you know, hooping dreams.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:17

Hey, go with me first.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:18

J. Cole. How you feel about J. Cole? He said he lost his visa. That's why he got he wasn't waiting for the team. He lost his visa.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:25

Man, fuck that. I hate that name, the Monkey Kings.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:28

He played on the Monkey Kings? Yeah, nigga. That's what T he played on. Who the fuck are you saying?

SPEAKER_00 1:01:35

That's the most racist shit ever. That's where they should have stopped this shit. You can't play for a team called the Monkey Kings, nigga.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:41

Shut the fuck up, though.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:43

No, you cannot play for a team called the Monkey Kings. The watermelon squad. The video I saw on fucking Instagram, G. This nigga had a jersey called the Monkey Kings. It was in China too, right? Exactly, nigga. Alright. He shouldn't have been playing in the first place.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:01

That's that half-white shit that fucked that up.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:04

Monkey Kings, nigga. No. Charleston White, get his ass, Joe.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:09

Yo, low key, he is like 41 years old. Like, why trying to make his a pro debut at 41?

SPEAKER_02 1:02:15

Like, say he played in the African League too. Now he went and said, fuck them niggas and said, I'm gonna go play with the Monkey King. Mike, you lying, man.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:23

I'm not lying. Look it up. He played for the Monkey Kings. That shit was just. I hated that shit, cuz. Unless it was AI, I'm team what I saw. I believe everything AI now, though, too. My fault for this team. But I believe everything's AI now. I saw Calitha Shields beating a Remy Ma today in the studio.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:41

This mother played for the Nanjine Monkey Kings. Ain't that? Ain't this a bitch? The Nan Gene Monkey King.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:48

You shouldn't have been playing on that fucking team anyway, nigga. Monkey. Monkey. Get a monkey. Dirty monkey boy. That nigga set us back 25 years and you can't fucking complain.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:59

Man, I think you need to change his name. I need to think you need to get the fuck out of China. You seen America motherfucker.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:07

That's why they snatched his visa, man. Because he was trying to make suggestions. Right. Could we just call him the Kings? No. Oh no. Get your monkey ass on my face. There's a team called the Monkey Kings. Monkey Kings, what?

SPEAKER_00 1:03:18

You shouldn't have been playing for him anyway. Agree.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:21

I agree. I agree. So so what's comparing him to, since this is a sports show, is he like one of the top um rappers that ever played basketball? No. Who's one like the top rappers that ever played basketball? Probably.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:37

Master P.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:37

Yeah. Master P.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:38

IV P, hands down.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:41

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, he made us an NBA.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:45

He played a few games with Charlotte. Might have paid for it, but hey, who gives a fuck? He made it.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:48

What's with these fucking like fucking rappers trying to play sports and all that? What's the other dude that's playing football now? What's his name? Tussie Tussie.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:56

But see, the thing is rappers want to be athletes. Athletes wanna be rappers.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:59

The thing is nowadays it's so easy to be a fucking rapper. A lot of these athletes, I mean, some of these rappers were fucking athletes. They said they just went the easy route. Some of these motherfuckers are like, man, STTG played football, was a big ass the plug, I think, played football. Blueface was a fucking killer quarterback or some shit like that.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:17

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:18

Yeah, it happens all the time.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:20

But now you just ain't got the dedication and commitment to make it to the league.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:23

It's easy to be fucking become a fucking rapper.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:25

Yeah, all you gotta do is lie.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:27

There's only one motherfucker that tried to become a rapper that didn't make it that I know of. Well, you know.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:30

Fuck you. Anyway, that's the show for the tag.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:34

The incredibles, baby. Check it out.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:37

Fuck you. Anyway, um, before we get out of here, do we got anything we want to promote? Anything that's coming out, you know.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:44

I got something to say that's way off the subject. Two things. I think it's bullshit. How they try to say Kanye wasn't gonna push 100,000 units, even though he he sold at what, 80,000 twice?

SPEAKER_01 1:04:57

Don't get out page second now.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:59

Doesn't make no fucking sense. Secondly, they did the rock and roll hall of fame shit and it didn't put L'Oreal on it this year. That's fucked up.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:07

They had one dike on it already. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:11

Boy, this is gonna be a good editing night. This is gonna be a fantastic editing night. I'm not my sister. I was gonna have them. This is gonna be a great editing night.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:20

Who's the one they got on there? Queen Lativa. No, Queen already on that shit. She's already in the Hall of Fame, I think. Yeah, she's not on there. They had to pick only a few niggas.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:28

I thought the marquee was Phil Collins, some white guy, Lisa Bandros. And they had Queen Lativa up there.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:35

Um, I thought she was already in that shit. Was Wu Tang up? Wu Tang. And Wu-Tang, yeah. It was Queen Lativa. They didn't put I think it's fucked up.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:45

Did they put the Fujiis in there by themselves, though? No. It's fucked up Lorraine.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:51

Laura Hill and Mariah Carey didn't make it.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:55

They don't make it soon, nigga.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:57

What?

SPEAKER_00 1:05:58

That's because you niggas be wanting them when y'all want.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:00

Arguably one of the greatest albums ever. Not rap albums, not RB, just one of the greatest albums ever. It is. And the motherfucker said, fuck you, Lauren. Then she fell off the goddamn wag. That's all you need. Like a motherfucker said, Huh, uh, one album is better than damn near better than 30 years of music coming out now.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:17

Rumble, right?

SPEAKER_02 1:06:18

And that's what it's based off of. When your first album came out.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:22

That's big facts. Mike, do you have anything you want to promote or something?

SPEAKER_00 1:06:26

Yeah, you know it's prime season. You know what I'm saying? My homie Charleston. Charles, go to uh Charles Jell's. Studios, Facebook, and Instagram. Email him at Charles Jelps Photography at gmail.com. Get your photography. He got a great deal. Great guy. You know what I'm saying? He hook you up for your prime season or anything. Weddings, parties, events, and he'll look out for you. Use code Team Greatness. He'll look out. Definitely look out for you.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:55

Hey, can I get a close-up one more time, please? Can I get closer one more time? I think Mike taking money under the fucking. He be plugging some shit. Y'all hate on this motherfucker online. Yeah, fucking. Have a fucking month and a half meeting, bro. Motherfucker got new socks on. He showed his legs out today. Coming here smelling like money.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:18

Oh no, because I want, hey, hitherto put it on me. I'm starring this fucking uh kick with me at UFC Gym, man. I'm trying to get into shape, boy. End of the year, I'm gonna be looking like fucking Mr. Olympian over there. You know what I'm saying? Oh, thanks, man. I appreciate that.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:37

I got a belly. I used to. Oh yeah, and uh shout out to um I usually don't shout out all the podcasters, but shout out to Rap Cush, Rap Crush. She got a podcast out, I think it's called You Just Not Her or whatever, but check her out, Rap Crush. And also don't forget to check us on TikTok, YouTube, and everywhere they stream podcasters, we on there.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:01

That nigga lim getting some bread on the side too. I need to get some fucking bread on the side. That ain't got no watch on the city.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:05

You gotta start. You gotta start. Yeah. You gotta start, you know, branching out, you know what I'm saying? Getting that money, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 1:08:12

Shout out. Go ahead and download Booty Talk. 95. It's still going strong.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:18

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